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[Closed] "Over-correcting for PC?"

wolfloversk
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I think that they were trying to aim this more at family audiences, since PC was aimed more at preteens and teens. The problem is though that instead of returning to the "Wardrobe audience" they "overcorrected" and made it more directed with younger audiences- I think that explains a lot of things, the pacing, the dialougue, its reminicent of a lot of kids films, especially Christian- kids films that I've seen. LWW was a family film it attracted a wide range of audiences, PC excluded the younger ones and aimed at preteens, teens, and adults, VDT excluded the older ones and was aimed more at younger children.

I think this extended through the plot too, it had more of a fantastical feel. And there were some scenes that I noticed this was what was happening, especially Coriakin's Island. And dropping Caspian's accent (which I missed)

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Topic starter Posted : December 17, 2010 3:24 pm
Umbarto
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Well, VDT the book is just as fantastical, and I think the movie captured that very well. The books are written for children, but all ages can appreciate them, and I think that's how this movie turned out. So, I'd say its right on target.

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Posted : December 17, 2010 3:33 pm
Shastafan
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Hm, I don't agree with what you say with the audiences. The fantastical feel is more there just 'cause VDT is a fantastical voyage, unlike PC, which the magic is gone, and LWW, which is a good mix inbetween. I think this movie can still attract all families, but it does a better job with younger then older. After all, Tron: Legacy is a teen's movie type, so maybe the movie makers thought it'd be smarter to steer away from that competion. ;)


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Posted : December 17, 2010 4:04 pm
wolfloversk
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It's not the fantastical elements that make me think this so much as it is the script. They state a lot of the themes outright like they do in some kids movies... the dialouge sounded similar to what I hear in kids films, it was way too fast (kinda like the young black stallion).

The fantastical elements are a different thing they "corrected." With Adamson's version it was magical, but it had a sense of reality. People complained PC lost that magic (I disagree) VDT had the fantasy. magic, but lost the reality.

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Topic starter Posted : December 17, 2010 4:10 pm
Josh
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It felt like a kiddie movie.

From the way they preached the themes by flat out stating them, the sickly sweet "feel good" scenes every other minute, the complete lack of any fear whenever the kid's face their opponnents (if we know they are going to be alright, why even have a threat in the first place), the music which never felt dramatic but rather all "magical" and "happy".

I don't get why some narniawebbers early on felt that kids should be at least 10 to watch the movie. Yeah the sea serpant scene was fairly intense, but it was just one scene. And it was more gross than scary. And honestly, should kids be sheltered so much to the point where they don't have any fear when watching a movie? Bad guys are SUPPOSSED to be scary. They are SUPPOSSED to invoke fear.

No child will get tramutised by watching Voyage of the Dawn Treader. It's really acceptable for all ages. I would rate it G had it not been for the Sea Serpant at the end.

I felt like PC was a step in the right direction for the series, but that they released it at the wrong time. Since that film flopped, Walden assumed it had to do with the change of tone. When really it was poor release.

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Posted : December 17, 2010 5:04 pm
Trufflehunter
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I honestly don't think it felt like a kid's movie. I was with a group of 6 teenagers and we all LOVED it! I do agree and think that the marketing was probably geared more towards kids than teens and adults, because they figured Tron would atract those teens and adults, and Narnia could scoop the kids!

"I'm a beast I am, and a Badger what's more. We don't change. We hold on. I say great good will come of it... And we beasts remember, even if Dwarfs forget, that Narnia was never right except when a son of Adam was King." -Trufflehunter

Posted : December 18, 2010 2:30 am
icarus
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I definitely agree with what wolfloversk is getting at. It seems to me that the production team for this movie has simply decided to do the exact opposite to what they did on the last film. And yet by painting Prince Caspian as a complete failure, i think they failed to learn the lessons of where that film that film was actually superior to LWW. That was a big mistake in my opinion.

Prince Caspian possessed many qualities which excelled LWW, and yet rather than build on that for VDT, making a movie that combined the qualities of both films, they decided to totally ignore Prince Caspian, and just go back to LWW - completely missing the fact that despite its high boxoffice, alot of people in the general public were disappointed with LWW.

Prince Caspian was as much a victim of poor circumstance as it was to do with the movie, and yet they seemed so desperate to get away from it that i do feel they drastically over-compensated and the movie ended up being skewed too far in the opposite direction.

Posted : December 18, 2010 3:10 am
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