come on VDT, I know you can do it! go Japan!

go VotDT! go Japan! yeah! we can do this!

go VotDT! go Japan! yeah! we can do this!

Indeed! I have high hopes. VDT deserves to do well.

Let's go Japan!

Ok, guys, seriously. Try to include some substance in your posts. Almost half of the past 16 posts have done nothing to contribute to any discussion going on here.

And so, with due respect, though I agree to a point, I still need to be convinced that your 'all of America isn't obligated to visit the Narnia movies' isn't just a disingenuous shrug, disguising yet another boycott by those who want to enforce their own theological ideas, whatever they might be, especially those humanists aligned with the Golden Compass author, Phillip Pullman. Especially when the critics who first reviewed the movie objected to it because of 'lion-delivered sermons'.

I don't think so. I think that VDT didn't gross as much in the USA just because it was an inferior film. Some critics objected the first movie because of 'lion-delivered sermons', but they were the minority. Looking at RottenTomatoes, LWW was received pretty well by the critics overall. VDT was not, and that wasn't because of Christian messages or humanist prejudice (and ironically the VDT film is more humanist than Christian). The critics complained that the plot and the villain were weak and the story wasn't captivating.

I'll have to disagree with you MinotaurofAslan. VDT was not an inferior film. Did the film stray enough from its source material to dissatisfy purists? Of course. I'll give into that one. But to say its an inferior film is to literally ignore its box office staying power. If it was a bad film, it would have gone the way of Eragon, Golden Compass, Spiderwick Chronicles etc. All three of these fantasy films had an almost identical $24-25 million opening weekends but ended with $70 domestic gross. Only Golden Compass had an international that compares to VDT. It takes an incredible word of mouth to recover from a $24 million opening weekend and surpass $100 million domestic. Its very rare for a third film of a film franchise to have a 4x multiplier at the box office. Have you seen Boxoffice.com's VDT online buzz tracking? I encourage you to go see it. VDT's positive buzz was relatively low up until its opening weekend. It then began to slowly increase up until Christmas weekend, where it finished at an outstanding 60%+ positive buzz and 3.38% negative buzz. This is the last weekend where VDT was tracked as a new movie. Its strong box office holds reflect that buzz.

Date Positive Buzz Negative Buzz
Dec 24, 2010 60.31% 3.38%
Dec 23, 2010 60.51% 3.64%
Dec 22, 2010 56.85% 4.25%
Dec 21, 2010 56.42% 4.12%
Dec 20, 2010 55.13% 4.31%
Dec 19, 2010 54.67% 5.01%
Dec 18, 2010 54.78% 5.56%
Dec 17, 2010 50.24% 6.62%
Dec 16, 2010 51.41% 5.63%
Dec 15, 2010 51.38% 5.43%
Dec 14, 2010 50.10% 5.48%
Dec 13, 2010 48.14% 4.98%
Dec 12, 2010 46.68% 5.16%
Dec 11, 2010 48.07% 2.94%
Dec 10, 2010 44.17% 4.26%
Dec 09, 2010 41.46% 5.12%
Dec 08, 2010 40.76% 6.64%
Dec 07, 2010 43.02% 6.74%
Nov 22, 2010 37.70% 6.15%
Nov 21, 2010 37.50% 6.59%
Nov 20, 2010 39.34% 6.21%
Nov 19, 2010 37.05% 7.54%

per boxoffice.com

UPDATE: VDT dropped a scant 13% in its second weekend in Venezuela to the tune of $486,311 .. fantastic!!!

and of course we all know what a great opening weekend we had in Japan!!

And Transformers 2 made a ton of money and was adored by fanboys everywhere. Still doesn't make it anything less than a terrible film. An individual's personal liking =/= film quality. But we've already danced the film critics are crazed biased atheists/there's a worldwide conspiracy to ruin VDT/purists hate Narnia dance too many times to count. It's time to get off the hyperbole and back on topic.

And Transformers 2 made a ton of money and was adored by fanboys everywhere. Still doesn't make it anything less than a terrible film. An individual's personal liking =/= film quality. But we've already danced the film critics are crazed biased atheists/there's a worldwide conspiracy to ruin VDT/purists hate Narnia dance too many times to count. It's time to get off the hyperbole and back on topic.

I clearly had box office numbers in my post that related to the films popularity. I'll forgive the oversight Anyways, I'd like to point out that Yogi Bear opened a few weeks ago to a number almost identical to VDT in Venezuela and Yogi is close to $2.5 million, which is an excellent number for that country. So there is still yet a chance that VDT can match PC's number in Venezuela, despite opening much lower than PC.

They updated the foreign (the difference with the Hollywood Reporter is gone now), we're at $387,843,151!
A little over 12 million $ to go.

I don't really care by how much (the more the merrier)......I just want VDT to beat PC in Japan! I read this on Boxofficemojo...

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader had its last major opening this weekend, as the fantasy sequel debuted to $6.6 million in Japan. That's notably off from The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, but about even with Prince Caspian.

I thought that VDT was significantly higher than PC. Are they saying this due to inflation and 3D prices?

I thought that VDT was significantly higher than PC. Are they saying this due to inflation and 3D prices?

Yes the VDT was a higher opening than PC... PC opened to around 5.5mill, and DT opened to around 6.6mill... No doubt in my mind that they are just saying this because there seems to be a personal thing against narnia over at BOM, and they simply dont want to make known that DT is actually doing quite well! (thats my thaughts on it anyways haha)

That's still in the ball park of VDT's opening. That might be what they mean.

Ok, guys, seriously. Try to include some substance in your posts. Almost half of the past 16 posts have done nothing to contribute to any discussion going on here.

Depends on what your opinion is. They seemed fine to me. Of course if you mean my wordy submissions...

I think that VDT didn't gross as much in the USA just because it was an inferior film. Some critics objected the first movie because of 'lion-delivered sermons', but they were the minority. Looking at RottenTomatoes, LWW was received pretty well by the critics overall. VDT was not, and that wasn't because of Christian messages or humanist prejudice (and ironically the VDT film is more humanist than Christian). The critics complained that the plot and the villain were weak and the story wasn't captivating.

Strange, I got that particular description, ie a 'lion delivered sermon' from a recent WebWombat VDT review, not a LWW one. I also read the highly similar Daily Telegraph and SMH reviews, though the latter were more favourable. And yes, those hardened film critics would be humanists of one kind or another. They wouldn't be Dewey eyed fans or Christians posting in the Southern Cross Magazine for distribution at monthly church services.

Another point you might need to consider is that VDT did win the Movieguide faith and values award last week for the most Christian and inspiring film for 2010. How did VDT manage that when it was such a humanist film?

As for the plot and the villain being weak, the problem with VDT is that the 'villain' is the viewer, not only the characters themselves. No wonder the critics feel the plot and villain are weak and the story isn't captivating. Are their own stories so very captivating, edifying and worth relating?

Of course not! And that is your answer. People will lap up anything so long as they aren't obliged to look into a mirror of any sort. And VDT, though it did mirror the viewers, wasn't being offensive in any way. No I don't think it was a bad film. And I do hope its total exceeds the $400 mil mark soon.

OFF-TOPIC!!!!!!

Does that clear up the confusion?

As I've said already on this very page, this is not the "Crazed Atheist Critics are Bashing VDT For No Good Reason" thread. Such discussion is off-topic and if it continues, I will be using the delete button. Carry on with discussing the Box Office results please.

Domestic: $103,826,608
+ Foreign: $284,050,249

Worldwide: $387,876,857...

A little higher than last reported, we may hit 104mill domestically this weekend if were lucky! does anyone know do these numbers that are still coming in for the domestic take, include the takings from the discount theatres? or is that figure added later???