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American Eagle
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VDT has passed $99M! We're only a million away now. :D

Posted : January 19, 2011 9:16 am
PeterCharn
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VDT has passed $99M! We're only a million away now. :D

I was just going to post that!
We are so close the 100 million milestone.

Does anyone know why BOXOFFICEMOJO has not posted number for CHINA and a release date for Japan in the "Foreign" section of VDT's page?

If China is not listed in the foreign section of the page, does that mean that its numbers haven't been added to the total?

Sorry for so many questions.

Posted : January 19, 2011 9:26 am
narnian1
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I see someone posted China's numbers already. Here it is from BOM now too:

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader dropped 48 percent to $9.2 million in 65 territories. Its $3.6 million weekend in China brought its total there to $12.6 million, making it China's highest-grossing entry in the Narnia series. With an foreign total of $257.6 million, Dawn Treader stood just over $20 million away from eclipsing Prince Caspian's total.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3050&p=.htm

China's update only shows up in articles on BOM because of this:

NOTE: Consistent and accurate data is not currently available for China. Therefore, China box office results will not be updated until we secure a new source.

Posted : January 19, 2011 10:29 am
Anonymous
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@narnian1: thanks for the BOM article. :) But I just found another article, this one from Film Business Asia, that gives slightly different stats for China.

In its second week in cinemas, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader made RMB42.1 million ($6.4 million) for a current gross of RMB84.2 million ($12.8 million) after ten days on release.

http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/3-d-tron-a ... box-office

So what do you think of that? $12.8M total in ten days! :-o B-)

FBA also has stats for opening weekend in China.

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader was third in the charts last week with its three-day weekend box office income of RMB42.1 million ($6.37 million) after opening on 7 Jan.

http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/bullets-re ... box-office

Posted : January 19, 2011 10:36 am
GlimGlum
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I will dare to make some predictions: :D

If attendance follows its usual pattern, VDT should reach at least $360 million world wide by Thursday.

I think it can do at least $6 million more in the USA because Prince Caspian made $5 million more after its sixth week and VDT has been doing better at the same period of its release since week #3.

Overseas, VDT should make at least $10 million total more in the countries currrently showing it. That would put it at $376 million before Japan and Venezuela.

If it performs the same in those two countries as PC, it should bring in another $30 million which would put it at $406 million total. It could do better or worse but $400 million is looking very probable and $5-$10 million over that very possible. :)

EDIT:
Oh, and VDT should reach $100 million USA by Saturday or Sunday. :D Not that hard to predict, actually. ;)

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Posted : January 19, 2011 11:10 am
GrizzledFish
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$400 Million Worldwide is the number that Fox is looking at for this film. That is what they want. I have been told by a friend who works on the film Development side for Fox that If this Film Reaches $400 Million Worldwide that 20th Century Fox will Green Light both The Silver Chair and The Horse and His Boy. Plus once they do Green Light The Silver Chair I have been told that Fox has a December 5th 2012 release date planned. (found on Narnia Web. Here's hoping!)

99.9% chance this is absolute codswallop, Mr. chrisTian.

Anytime you see anyone on the Internet begin a statement with "I know somebody on the inside who told me..." roll your eyes and ignore the rest of the statement. They want to get attention and/or start rumors. 8-|

Posted : January 19, 2011 11:23 am
narnian1
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@narnian1: thanks for the BOM article. :) But I just found another article, this one from Film Business Asia, that gives slightly different stats for China.

In its second week in cinemas, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader made RMB42.1 million ($6.4 million) for a current gross of RMB84.2 million ($12.8 million) after ten days on release.

http://www.filmbiz.asia/news/3-d-tron-a ... box-office

So what do you think of that? $12.8M total in ten days! :-o B-)

well, BOM only listed the weekend gross, whereas your link did full week it seems. Either way their totals are off by $0.2, $12.6M vs $12.8M- not a huge margin. Both have it as the biggest Narnia. Pretty much the same ;)

Posted : January 19, 2011 11:30 am
CorazonBandido55
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VDT has passed $99M! We're only a million away now. :D

I was just going to post that!
We are so close the 100 million milestone.

Does anyone know why BOXOFFICEMOJO has not posted number for CHINA and a release date for Japan in the "Foreign" section of VDT's page?

If China is not listed in the foreign section of the page, does that mean that its numbers haven't been added to the total?

Sorry for so many questions.

I'm unsure why China's numbers are not posted on the foreign page, but they are included in the current worldwide totals. BOM is just slow about updating individual countries on their charts.

your fellow Telmarine

Posted : January 19, 2011 11:37 am
narnian1
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NarniaWeb Guru

I'm unsure why China's numbers are not posted on the foreign page, but they are included in the current worldwide totals. BOM is just slow about updating individual countries on their charts.

China's update only shows up in articles on BOM because of this:

NOTE: Consistent and accurate data is not currently available for China. Therefore, China box office results will not be updated until we secure a new source.

I posted that above on a previous post. That disclaimer can be found on China's international page on BOM.

Posted : January 19, 2011 11:47 am
MinotaurforAslan
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$400 Million Worldwide is the number that Fox is looking at for this film. That is what they want. I have been told by a friend who works on the film Development side for Fox that If this Film Reaches $400 Million Worldwide that 20th Century Fox will Green Light both The Silver Chair and The Horse and His Boy. Plus once they do Green Light The Silver Chair I have been told that Fox has a December 5th 2012 release date planned. (found on Narnia Web. Here's hoping!)

Um...this is nothing but silly rumors. There's no way that Fox would greenlight The Silver Chair and the Horse and His Boy after VDT was a far cry from a runaway success.

Posted : January 19, 2011 12:03 pm
GrizzledFish
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NarniaWeb Regular

Indeed.

That claim has the strong perfume of something a fanboy would make up.

If they were going to greenlight two Narnias at once (which would be strange and would involve some very specific reasoning), the other would be Magician's Nephew.

I will be very surprised if HHB ever gets greenlit at all. It's a good book, and the fans would go see it of course, but I have serious doubts about the source material being strong enough to carry a major, big budget Hollywood fantasy/effects film, among other problems (such as the Islamic issues). I guess that's for another post though!

Posted : January 19, 2011 1:20 pm
Clive Staples Sibelius
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It was definitely a fanboy rumor germ, but greenlighting both SC and HHB might not be a bad idea. For one thing, filming two movies in the same series saves a studio a lot of money. Of course, FOX would have to feel confident that they would gross at least $400 mil for each film worldwide.

"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis

Posted : January 19, 2011 1:45 pm
smartypie
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NarniaWeb Regular

In his interviews, Mr. Gresham has declared BOTH of the Naria movies successful. If VDT grosses 400 + M, then wouldn't it be more profitable than Caspian and justify a continuation of the franchise? I know this is all in God's hands, but He does tell us to ask for good things. :p

Faith in a greenlit SC to the glory of God. :D

Posted : January 19, 2011 3:15 pm
MinotaurforAslan
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NarniaWeb Junkie

Greenlighting both SC and HHB might not be a bad idea. For one thing, filming two movies in the same series saves a studio a lot of money.

This only saves money in series that use the same characters and locations over again. SC and HHB are about as different as you can get...aside from Aslan, there wouldn't be any actors, sets or locations that they could really reuse. They wouldn't save money, they would only save time.

Posted : January 19, 2011 5:56 pm
waggawerewolf27
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X( ( By the way, that is not an angry emoticon, merely me trying to hold my breath. ) :D Unfortunately that is a little difficult, much as I wanted to wait until the $100 mill dollar mark for USA before posting again in this thread. #:-s

Nonetheless, here I am. :)

Indeed.

That claim has the strong perfume of something a fanboy would make up.

If they were going to greenlight two Narnias at once (which would be strange and would involve some very specific reasoning), the other would be Magician's Nephew.

No that claim doesn't have the 'strong perfume of something a fanboy would make up'. It has the perfume of the 'rear end of a minotaur'. Our very own NarniaWeb user-friendly PG pejorative descriptor, courtesy of VDT. =))

Otherwise, I agree with you. Douglas Gresham has flagged that he wanted Magician's Nephew to be made, perhaps for his own personal reasons. If SC gets greenlit instead of MN, then I really think that MN would be the next cab off the rank, no matter what.

I like HHB best of the series, and the book is dedicated to both him and his brother, Daniel. I'm not so sure that the Islamic problems would be such a big deal though. Meanwhile, I am indebted to either Grizzledfish, or maybe Minotaur for Aslan's eye-opener of a post, which included a link to an article explaining how the film industry works at the moment.

Whilst 'holding my breath', I have been doing some number-crunching. Take a look at how VDT is doing in the fantasy-live action category. Not bad at all at 17th place. Though it hasn't done as well as Clash of the Titans, The last airbender or Hook, it has done better than a heap of other films, including (my) family favourites, such as Willow, Return to Oz, The Dark crystal and others.

And I also wonder if box office is the only measure of when a film will get a sequel. Megamind and Voyage of the Dawn Treader are comparable competitors last Christmas. Both were released in Australia in early December, and both are parts of franchises. Even Megamind has lost cinemas and is due to depart these shores shortly.

Visitors to both BOM movie sites have been polled to gauge whether they would be interested in a sequel. The results of the Voyage of the Dawn Treader poll are quite different from the Megamind results. It seems that 48.7% of VDT voters wanted a sequel compared to only 25% of Megamind voters. The comparative figures for those who didn't want a sequel are 27% of VDT voters and 35.3% of Megamind voters. More than a third of Megamind voters (39.7%) and slightly less than a quarter of VDT voters didn't care either way. From these figures it can be deduced that VDT voters tend to be more polarised. It could also suggest that the bulk of Megamind voters didn't feel very strongly about the film.

Megamind, which was released in America in November, has already made up its $130 mill production costs in $145 mill domestic takings alone. According to BOM, its foreign takings have been somewhat less spectacular, and currently it trails Tron: legacy. I agree that the Fox 1995 Die Hard movie, with slightly better results than VDT, did result in a successful 2007 sequel.

But if you were a famed film distributor, like Fox or Paramount, which sort of movie sequel would you want to greenlight? Something that the fans would prefer to see, even if it only made up 63% or better of its production costs in America? Or something that moviegoers couldn't care less about, whether or not it made up its production costs in America?

Posted : January 19, 2011 9:04 pm
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