Yeah, the two Monday's aren't really comparable at all, because that Monday was the day after Christmas. And also VDT had one of the best holds from Sunday to Monday, except for Yogi Bear and Tangled, both of which are kiddie flicks (VDT is more of a family film than a kiddie flick). I wouldn't lower my expectations just because one Monday didn't track like LWW.
This upcoming week and weekend will really decide how the movie does at the box office, as most films tend to stay flat or actually increase over New Year's weekend. I think that $100 is fairly a lock right now, because I think the worst that VDT will do over the weekend is to stay flat, which will pretty much guarantee $100 M. However, seeing that VDT is holding extremely well, and that it only dropped by a little over 20% this past weekend, I think that an increase is in store. I would say that VDT will make a little less than $15 M this weekend.
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When exactly did that blizzard bring New York, of all places, to a standstill? The one that hit most of Eastern USA and Canada? I heard about it here on the news. And is it still on?
I'm not really sure why, but LWW did much better on the same Monday. Instead of dropping it went up nearly 68%! VDT was gaining ground, but now it is extremely behind. VDT only made 28% of what LWW made on the same Monday.
That's because of holiday-related circumstances, so it's not fair to compare it by day of the week. LWW got a huge boost on Monday because it was the day after Christmas. However, you are still correct, VDT is lagging behind...that's why I was so disappointed when VDT didn't get a huge boost on Sunday, which was the day after Christmas as well.
Edit: Apparently I didn't refresh the page and several other people said the same thing I did before me.
FriendofNarnia2,
It make sense to see LWW increase on a Monday after xmas cause xmas was on a Sunday back in 05.
But based on that then why didn't VDT go up 67% on Sunday since Christmas was on Saturday. Even if we compared VDT's Monday number to LWW's Tuesday number, LWW's number is over 3 times as much. There's has been that big of a percentage gap between their numbers since opening weekend.eekend.
But VDT still did have a much better hold over its third weekend than LWW's third weekend hold. (23.5% vs. 37.9%). So the Sunday number really doesn't mean as much as you're making it out to. Same with the Monday number. The two are different animals, faced with different obstacles. It is almost impossible to directly compare the two, and LWW is holding better in some respects, but VDT is holding much better in most others.
Lets go SC!
But VDT still did have a much better hold over its third weekend than LWW's third weekend hold. (23.5% vs. 37.9%). So the Sunday number really doesn't mean as much as you're making it out to.
Yes, but VDT's weekend included the day after Christmas boost, while LWW's didn't. VDT should have done even better, more like the estimates had predicted (-10%). Which is why I was confused when people were happy with -23.5%...
Well Narnia dropped a little bit on Monday, (Well $3,485,140 to be exact.)
I'm not really sure why, but LWW did much better on the same Monday. Instead of dropping it went up nearly 68%! VDT was gaining ground, but now it is extremely behind.
I knew that would happen. I knew this week's numbers for LWW vs VDT weren't comparable, which is why I discussed the point of VDT not making it to $96M by Sunday, Jan 2. LWW went up by a bunch all week long and had a big increase over the weekend. VDT still did better than last Monday though, so that's good news, 56.6% better. Should have a good week, and weekend. I originally said it'd have $80M at most by the end of this weekend, but $85M is within reach, and a little more actually
Well, on Christmas Eve, Christmas, and the day after Christmas, LWW made a total of $23,761,420, which would have been a fall of about 25.4% from its previous weekend. So even so, accounting for the Christmas boost, VDT had a better hold than LWW. I just don't get what all this fuss is about. While the two previous weekends were comparable, this weekend cannot be compared fairly because of the day of the week on which Christmas falls.
Lets go SC!
As mentioned above, according to Box Office Mojo, VDT earned $3.49 million at US theaters on Monday December 27:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=narnia3.htm
If that pace holds through the rest of this week, VDT should have ~$75 million in the US by Friday.
Oh, and Tarquin? I'd be wary of citing people on other message forums as experts on, well, anything. Look around this forum -temper tantrums over box office results? Someone predicting God is going to swoop in and make VDT a hit? Immaturity or hyperbole--either way, its not very, shall we say, scientific. Actual professionals, not the arm chair variety, think the weather might have depressed box office results less than 10%.
VDT has been out for a few weeks now in the US and UK, and it hasn't been snowing everywhere for that entire time but the gross is well below LWW and PC. Snow was not a factor in Australia, where VDT also underwhelmed. In my area of the Midwest, there were five inches of snow on the ground (and more piling up) when LWW premiered - and the theater was sold out. Same theater at midnight for VDT, with no snow? Less than a third full.
The takeaway message to all of this: Look to something other than the weather for why VDT is trailing the other Narnia films. On a list of ten factors as to why the film is underperforming, weather belongs at #10. At the same time, be glad VDT is holding well over the holiday break in the US, is doing well internationally, and has yet to open in Japan, a major market.
I still find it hard to believe that the fact that Christmas following on Saturday instead of Sunday, would have such a dramatic affect on the following week. I would have thought we would have seen a nice little increase on Sunday, and then another one on Monday. Perhaps it will catch back up next weekend.
Also, how did Yogi Bear have a better hold than Narnia? Tangled and Narnia's numbers are getting closer and closer to each other. My guess is that Narnia will be overtaken by it sometime this week...
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I still find it hard to believe that the fact that Christmas following on Saturday instead of Sunday, would have such a dramatic affect on the following week. I would have thought we would have seen a nice little increase on Sunday, and then another one on Monday. Perhaps it will catch back up next weekend.
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Well, I guess being sick is bringing out my marshwiggle-ness. I'm sure everything will be much better tomorrow. Of course tonight there will be a massive snowstorm, and all of America is snowed in, I shouldn't wonder.
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Well, I guess being sick is bringing out my marshwiggle-ness. I'm sure everything will be much better tomorrow. Of course tonight there will be a massive snowstorm, and all of America is snowed in, I shouldn't wonder.
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Putting a bold face on it I see! That's the spirit!
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Of course tonight there will be a massive snowstorm, and all of America is snowed in, I shouldn't wonder.
But to try answer the question why didn´t VDT do as well as LWW I will say something that I heard from friend of mine after watching VDT.
She said that movie was good (especially Eustace:), but when you say "Narnia" she imagines snow, and Mr Tumnus carrying presents, and all four Pevensies and the Snow queen and the lamp. I had to agree with her although, unlike her, I read all books that was picture of Narnia that remained in my head from the time I was child. So for me it is no wonder that LWW was the most popular of all Narnia movies, and it would be miraculous if any other Narnian movie would earn more, as I suppose that book LWW was book that found most readers back in Lewis time.
PC was made with more money so when you count that in, result of VDT is in his rank, and I think that it is a success.
My only wish is that movie earns enough money to make sure that they will make next one (SC or MN) so that books get more promoted, and that kids of this modern time, surrounded with load of negative stuffs, hear about Narnia for the sake of their childhood, and not only childhood.
I never expected VDT to do as well as LWW. I was just saying that compared to how much VDT was acting like LWW (only on a much smaller scale), it was strange for it to drop so much. (I was expecting something more along the lines of the 23% bump that Tangled got.) Now it will be hard to keep up with LWW at the same pace that it was. In a sense it will now be following the same pattern as LWW, but on an even smaller scale than what it was before.
And let's hope it doesn't go the way of the Polar Bear Express. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... xpress.htm
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