Forum

Share:
Notifications
Clear all

[Closed] Official Box Office Numbers

Page 13 / 78
icarus
(@icarus)
NarniaWeb Guru

Is there going to be a Boxoffice page on NarniaWeb like there was for PC?

http://www.narniaweb.com/info/box-office/

Posted : December 13, 2010 9:17 am
Anonymous
(@anonymous)
Member

@icarus: I love NW's PC page! Thanks for posting this!

What strikes me is that it took until week 2 for PC to get over $100M. VDT is already there. Maybe the domestic is worse but the foreign is much better! I have hope! :D So what were the weekly numbers like for LWW?

Posted : December 13, 2010 9:22 am
narnian1
(@narnian1)
NarniaWeb Guru

What strikes me is that it took until week 2 for PC to get over $100M. VDT is already there.

Don't forget, that you have to keep in mind how the movie was released overseas. I can't find the order. But did PC have as wide an opening internationally as VDT did? How many countries did it release in, and which ones? ;)

Posted : December 13, 2010 10:17 am
MinotaurforAslan
(@minotaurforaslan)
NarniaWeb Junkie

Don't forget, that you have to keep in mind how the movie was released overseas. I can't find the order. But did PC have as wide an opening internationally as VDT did? How many countries did it release in, and which ones? ;)

I can tell you off the top of my head that PC was released almost a month later than the USA in New Zealand, Australia, and the big one, Britain. VDT was released a week earlier than the USA in NZ and Australia and it was released in Britain at the same time.

So VDT reaching $100 million before PC did really doesn't matter because it's comparing apples to oranges. :|

Posted : December 13, 2010 12:46 pm
Tarquin
(@tarquin)
NarniaWeb Nut

Yeah, what we would have to do to compare them is find out the opening weekends for all the countries that Dawn Treader has opened in so far, and then look up those numbers with PC's first weekends in those countries. PC had a very staggered release. Some people believe thats why it's international numbers didn't do as well as even the Golden Compass. Piracy and negative comparisons had time to sink in. While these numbers make me very hopeful, i do feel that it is under performing in many big markets. So i expect it's international numbers not to pass PC.

Posted : December 13, 2010 1:34 pm
fantasia
(@fantasia)
Member Admin

What strikes me is that it took until week 2 for PC to get over $100M. VDT is already there.

Don't forget, that you have to keep in mind how the movie was released overseas.

Indeed. Here's how many countries it took for PC to reach $100million in two weeks...

Chile 15 May 2008
Croatia 15 May 2008
Indonesia 15 May 2008
Kazakhstan 15 May 2008
Russia 15 May 2008
South Korea 15 May 2008
Ukraine 15 May 2008
India 16 May 2008
Mexico 16 May 2008
Panama 16 May 2008
USA 16 May 2008
Japan 21 May 2008

Here's how many countries to took for VDT to reach $100million in... well.. it really is two weeks as well. ;)

Australia 2 December 2010
Hong Kong 2 December 2010
Singapore 2 December 2010
India 3 December 2010
Indonesia 3 December 2010
Mexico 3 December 2010
Philippines 3 December 2010
Spain 3 December 2010
Taiwan 3 December 2010
Ukraine 3 December 2010
Belgium 8 December 2010
Chile 8 December 2010
Egypt 8 December 2010
France 8 December 2010
Latvia 8 December 2010
Portugal 8 December 2010
Czech Republic 9 December 2010
Greece 9 December 2010
Hungary 9 December 2010
Kuwait 9 December 2010
Malaysia 9 December 2010
Netherlands 9 December 2010
New Zealand 9 December 2010
Russia 9 December 2010
South Korea 9 December 2010
UK 9 December 2010
Brazil 10 December 2010
Bulgaria 10 December 2010
Canada 10 December 2010
Estonia 10 December 2010
Georgia 10 December 2010
Iceland 10 December 2010
Italy 10 December 2010
Kazakhstan 10 December 2010
Turkey 10 December 2010
USA 10 December 2010

(These are IMDb's release dates which may not quite be accurate, but you still get the general idea)

ETA: icarus, I will see about getting a Box Office page up. :)

Edit again: Here's an article stating the numbers from the weekend in the UK. Not good... just like the USA.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6BD1E320101214

Topic starter Posted : December 13, 2010 1:43 pm
FriendofNarnia2
(@friendofnarnia2)
NarniaWeb Nut

Voyage of the Dawn Treader made 1.638 million on its first Monday. Not too bad at all considering its' low opening. That is a 72.8% drop from Sunday.

The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe's first Monday drop was 73.3%. If VDT can keep up with LWW daily percentage drops it will make approximately 110 million by the end of it's domestic run. Ideally VDT will continue to have better drops than LWW, and in the end make more than 110 million. :D

A few more bits of information about how the box office works that gives me hope for VDT box office run.

Most family films drop more during the week days and make more money one the weekends (particularly Saturdays). While VDT had a relatively soft drop, it also had a higher Saturday increase than LWW. So basically what that means is that VDT is playing quite well for a family film. Of course, it is hard to make too many conclusions this early in its run, but it is possible that not ALL is hopeless. :)

Check out "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Last Battle" trailers I created!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWtuk3Qafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPxboeZqrA

Posted : December 14, 2010 9:32 am
CorazonBandido55
(@corazonbandido55)
NarniaWeb Nut

well as long as its enough for Walden Media and Fox to say 'lets give it another try with Silver Chair' thats all I care about. but im sure that both are looking at these numbers with eagle eyes right now.

your fellow Telmarine

Posted : December 14, 2010 11:35 am
gstommylee
(@gstommylee)
NarniaWeb Regular

CorazaonBandid055,

I hope so too that VDT will make enough so we can see another movie.

Posted : December 14, 2010 3:08 pm
FriendofNarnia2
(@friendofnarnia2)
NarniaWeb Nut

When people talk about the "legs" of a film, they are referring to how well a movie does in comparison to what it made on opening weekend. Well I decided, taking into consideration VDT opening weekend, how much would it make at the box office if it had as good of legs as other films that opened in December.

If it has as good of legs as "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" it would make 106 million.

With "Eragon" legs it would only make 77 million

If it did as well as "The Golden Compass" it would only make 65 million

However, if it had as good of legs as "The Return of the King", it would make 124 million.

Now get this! If it was as leggy as "Night at the Museum" (a movie that had even a lower score than VDT on rottentomatoes) it would make 198 MILLION dollars!

And of course I had to see how it would compare to Avatar. If it could have as good of legs as Avatar then it would make 233 million.

Now, the point of all this is that we don't know exactly how much it will make until the movie leaves the last theater in the country. I'm guessing somewhere between 90 and 110 million, but it is possible, (if families really like it), that it could actually have a respectable run when all is said and done.

Check out "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Last Battle" trailers I created!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWtuk3Qafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPxboeZqrA

Posted : December 14, 2010 3:58 pm
drummer boy
(@drummer-boy)
NarniaWeb Newbie

Still, only making $200 million is pretty pitiful for such a high-profile film with so much invested in it. It's likely to be a disappointment for the studio even if it has really good legs.

Posted : December 14, 2010 4:25 pm
FriendofNarnia2
(@friendofnarnia2)
NarniaWeb Nut

True, it would not be as good as hoped, but it would tell the studios one thing for sure. That people are still interested in seeing Narnia films.

The low opening weekend is a result of the previous films reception. Since VDT opened so low it is an indication that Prince Caspian was not very well received.

If VDT has good legs it means that people are slowly getting word that it is a good film.

Well, I'm pretty sure they would not consider 200 million a disappointment. That would actually be quite a success considering Prince Caspian only made 140 million with a 200 million dollar budget. But it doesn't really matter since there is about a 2% chance of VDT making that much anyway.

Check out "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Last Battle" trailers I created!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWtuk3Qafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPxboeZqrA

Posted : December 14, 2010 4:31 pm
narnian1
(@narnian1)
NarniaWeb Guru

BOM updated the grosses by country.
VDT/PC/LWW:



Australia: $12,777,363/$13,181,570/$25,842,771


Chile: $1,474,774/$2,215,829/$2,683,520
Croatia: $217,020/$198,517/NA
Czech Republic: $1,088,234/$1,214,582/$1,650,565

Hong Kong: $3,354,484/$3,266,786/$3,915,444
Hungary: $720,542/$1,024,675/NA
Iceland: $133,025/$153,304/$532,232
Israel: $732,840/$1,178,429/NA


Philippines: $2,603,691/$1,808,650/NA
Poland: $3,898,330/$5,438,475/$7,024,581
Portugal and Angola: $1,194,953/$1,188,368/NA
Russia (CIS): $19,146,869/$14,770,821/($7,800,000 & $8,098,706)
Serbia and Montenegro: $74,842/$45,078/$28,766
South Africa (Entire Region): $1,931,605/$1,026,102/$2,521,435
South Korea: $10,010,532/$8,943,448/$13,983,100
Spain: $14,978,877/$15,002,021/$22,086,599

United Kingdom and Ireland and Malta: $22,304,371/$21,581,030/$77,933,064

Posted : December 14, 2010 4:35 pm
GlimGlum
(@glimglum)
Member Moderator

Thanks for those numbers, narnian1. :)

The low opening weekend is a result of the previous films reception. Since VDT opened so low it is an indication that Prince Caspian was not very well received.

If VDT has good legs it means that people are slowly getting word that it is a good film.

Two good points, FriendofNarnia2. Since VDT had a poor opening weekend for whatever reasons, word of mouth and legs are it's only hope.

I am a little older than most here so I have seen a certain number of movies over the years that looked like they were going to bomb and turned out to be successes.

The biggest thing in VDT's favor now is the coming holiday period here in the USA and elsewhere. It's the most intense moviegoing period of the year. As the week or two before are usually the slowest.

I've seen movies double, triple, or even quadruple what they did in the previous slow weeks. With a wide release, just a %50-%100 increase is more likely. And family films tend to get the bigger boosts.

Even if people aren't familiar with VDT like LWW and PC has hurt it and it is an older fanasy series and it is no longer a "Disney" film, it is still Narnia; and people do recognize and are familiar with that name and may give it a chance.

If it holds stonger than a 50% drop this coming weekend, that would be a good sign that the word of mouth is positive and the holday will really help. If not, there is stil a slim chance for a holiday boost. No significant holday boost = Eragon $75 million if lucky.

There is still hope and in spite of VDt's flaws, I still want The Silver Chair.

Loyal2Tirian
There is definitely no "a" in definite.
The Mind earns by doing; the Heart earns by trying.

Posted : December 15, 2010 6:26 am
FriendofNarnia2
(@friendofnarnia2)
NarniaWeb Nut

Some more good news!

VDT made $1,727,767 yesterday! That's a 5% increase!

Compare that to LWW which dropped 12.5% in its first Tuesday.

Check out "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Last Battle" trailers I created!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWtuk3Qafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPxboeZqrA

Posted : December 15, 2010 7:10 am
Page 13 / 78
Share: