I think maybe the reason they are showing her appear like Susan rather than have the beauty beyond the lot of mortals is because no one knows what that looks like and everybody has a different picture of what is beautiful.
So they could have what they think might be beautiful and others think is nothing special.
The idea of having a 12-13 year old girl being kissed romantically by a man in his twenties is hardly suitable material for a PG film, Josh! (and in the book she's only 10)
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In all the "Lucy-becomes-Susan" scenario, there would be no Lucy, no Narnian visit by the Pevensies (Aslan would have chosen another four children). So there would be no revisit to help Prince Caspian gain his kingdom.
There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."
Yes, but even if you can't show the beauty beyond the lot of mortals, it wouldn't be that hard to show people going to war over Lucy. Hey, they'd even get in one of those action scenes they're so desperate to shoehorn in.
I would rather have the action for a good cause rather than just a few glimpes of a depressing pointless fight.
But since they are having her turn into Susan I don't think any of this will happen
The idea of having a 12-13 year old girl being kissed romantically by a man in his twenties is hardly suitable material for a PG film, Josh! (and in the book she's only 10)
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Georgie is not 12-13. She looks 16-17. I know that wasnt the age in the book or even the offical film age, but anyone who watches the movie does not think of her as a little kid.
In LWW I thought she was 8, in PC I think of her as 12-13, and in this movie 16-17.
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In the movie she is around 13 or 14
Well henley is currently 15 right? I mean in real life. So I would also say she is 14/15. I don't know around what ages girls marry in Narnia. I doubt it that it would be that young. Despite the time period being based on the middle ages where people married younger, in HHB it was seen by Lewis as wrong for Aravis to marry that old man. So I doubt it would be right for Lucy to marry Caspian.
Anyways its a family film. I don't know how appropriate that is.
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So Gael and Rhince join the ship, where, at the Lone Islands? I think I like that... I mean, I like it if Gael has to be there at all. It's better than her having come all the way from Narnia. And maybe Gael is just cheering Lucy on as she goes to fight rather than convincing her to do it...
So Lucy is tempted by the spell, takes it with her, and sneakily says it...doesn't sound much like Lucy... I don't like the fact that she apparently says it and then later repents (I guess?) and then Aslan fixes everything. That doesn't match too well with the way Aslan usually deals with the consequences of sin. Maybe it's one of those convenient visions where we think she does it and we see the consequences but in the end we find out that none of it really happened.
Maybe most of the messed-up plot will be like that and we'll find out it was all a vision from the Dark Island.
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Even at Georgie's real age, I don't think showing her snogging with Caspian would be even remotely appropriate. He's meant to be in his twenties at this point in the movie-verse, right?
Yeah, good point, Hogglestock. Aslan's not really the "Oh, you screwed up your whole life, here I'll use my magical lion powers to fix it all!" type. Just think how often the characters do make mistakes and he doesn't fix the consequences. Besides, doesn't this whole dream scenario count as being told what would happen?
Besides, doesn't this whole dream scenario count as being told what would happen?
Wow! You're right! I hadn't thought of that before. Great now this is gonna bug me even more than the WW, possibly even more than the 7 swords.
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I doubt Aslan would fix it. More likely, I think Lucy will either have a dream where she says the spell, or has a vison/imagining of what would happen if she said the spell.
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Aslan undragoned Eustace, he saved Edmund, he told Jill the sign again when she had forgotten them, in the magic room he told Lucy that her friend really loved her after she had been eavesdropping, he was merciful to Rabadash, He tried to help the dwarves in the last battle even though they didn't believe in him, he came back to show them the way in PC after they had gone there own way,
why would he not be merciful to Lucy if she was truly humbled, He would be just the type to do that
Okay,maybe I was way too optimist at the beginning of them filming for Dawn Treader.But I had hoped that the ''big battles'' that were mentioned by Ben Barnes, were people fighting over Lucy's beauty like in the book. I do think that the first suggestion is probably the better one, and I do think that if they wanted to do this they could make Susan look very plain compared to Lucy with beauty beyond the lot of mortals. They have been able to do it in movies before and they will be able to do it again. Also,when the movie banner came out with Susan and Peter on it I thought Susan looked like she was jealous. I thought this was a perfect way for to look when Susan was prettier than her. I have always wondered what Edmund and the rest would say if she had come down looking beautiful beyond the lot of mortals. I know we are never told what would have happened, but I have always wondered just the same.
I have to wonder about this: is Edmund, Caspian or even Eustace noticing all of this? Caspian and Eustace aren't likely to see this, but you'd think Edmund might spot it. When Lucy is copying the flirting lady, I can imagine Edmund stopping in mid-sentence complaining about Eustace and ask "What are you doing?" Or when Lucy asks if she looks like Susan, Edmund mutters "Of course not! Why are you asking that?" This could be very interesting...
Edmund, I think would be totally out of character if he didn't ask or say something along the lines of what you are saying.
I think the whole It's a Wonderful Life scenario with the beauty spell is absurd. Waste of screen time.
That is absurd. It's been done before. I don't understand why this would happen when she said the beauty spell. At least this "wanting to be Susan" makes more sense with the book than saying that Lucy's problem is being vain. I know at times I'm jealous of my sister but this feeling usually only springs up when the circumstances are right. I think it is much the same for Lucy. You try not being jealous of a sibling who gets to go on vacation while you have to stay with Eustace. I can see how the ideas are related. Lucy thinks that beauty like Susan's is to be desired. Susan's beauty and the associated attention is the main thing she is jealous of. She wishes she was beautiful. At times I'm jealous of my sister because things always come easy for her and I have always had to work hard for things. I want that aspect of my sister for myself but there are any number of parts of my sister I would not want. Now taking that farther, I also at times want my sister to have to struggle through things like I have: just like Lucy wants Susan to be the overlooked less beautiful sister. It seems in the movie the made it an all or nothing deal. You are jealous of Susan's beauty and want some for yourself? Well, you have to take all of Susan. I don't know for sure but I think if one sat Lucy down and asked her "Do you want to be Susan?" She'd say no. Just like I'd say "NO" if I was asked if I wanted to be my sister. (at first the two uppercase letters was a typo I only meant the "N" to be big but then as it seemed to fit I decided to leave it. ) Edit I don't want to give the impression that my sister is some kind of evil person. I love her lots and we are really close. I just wouldn't want to be her. [/edit] If it becomes clear that Lucy knew that by saying the spell she would become Susan and that is want she wants, then I will be very upset. Or if it becomes clear that she wants to be Susan (in the entirety)
I think I've resigned myself to the fact that Lucy says the beauty spell. It used to bother me to no end. Help! I think I'm beginning to compromise my standards. I think what they did was take out the eavesdropping spell and make her say the beauty spell instead. I still don't like that she goes through the book trying random spells. If as some reports say she says the beauty spell twice, I will not like that at all. At least Lucy is being shown as human. I was afraid they'd sugarcoat her character again. Some of the same elements from the book are still there. Lucy is tempted by spell. Aslan sends a warning. Lucy with that warning still has a desire to say a spell that she knows is wrong. Aslan confronts her with it.
I can't wait to find out how they're going to explain years worth of people who were fed to the Dark Island Doom Resort still being alive and sane.
I'm wondering about that too. It wouldn't surprise me though if they didn't explain it.
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Maybe one of the slaves was a former chef and his/her worst nightmare is having to cook an endless buffet and that's what the people ate and drank for the 20 odd years they were in the DI.