The end credits were cool, as was the made-me-smile reference to a non-VDT character after Edmund, Lucy, and Eustace return to Cambridge...a nice touch you'll have to "hear" yourself.

Who? Trumpkin? Jill? *Shakes spartan5* I need to knoooooow! Okay, this does it... I'm going to the premier. (And yeah, this is why I'm one of the Spoiled Rotten.)

Looks like it's going to be great!

Interesting observation! I can certainly understand this, especially as this film isn't as dark as PC was. Still, the person I viewed it with (age 19) thought parts were still too dark.

Stargazer, I hope I am wrong. I hope that the late teen, young adults love it. I am glad to know that the 19 yr old who saw it thought there were parts that were too dark, if only because it demonstrates that there are some teens who have a sense of boundaries that exist within PG movies, rather than R and NC17.

I don't watch R rated movies, except for the older ones, just because I know they have stuff in them... and I'm 18. I also don't watch horror...

I'm glad everyone's liking it so far.

I'm going to ask a question, you do not have to answer it if you feel that you cannot, especially since it could change by december since it is such a small detail... Does Caspian say "High King and Queen" or not?

Guys, please watch how many details that are released. I asked Mr. Flaherty directly and he said that impressions are ok to release, details are not. I know this is a spoiler thread, but we still have to watch what we say.

Does Caspian say "High King and Queen" or not?

I am respectfully going to hold off on divulging that detail. My naming of a specific scene was probably already too much.

I would like to emphasize that there were changes, some of which people will not like, and additions, some very good, and some of them...meh. But, I am confident that this movie, as a whole, will be liked by Narnian fans.

It is a very good movie. I enjoyed it, even with the changes. I have spent time thinking about it for the last couple of days, which means it is still sitting with me. I am really looking forward to seeing it again. I have recommended it to many already.

Did you think I said anything in my earlier breakdown that spoiled too much? I don't think I was too specific.

Anyway, my problem wasnt that VotDT wasnt dark. It shouldnt be as "dark" as PC. My problem was that it was a bit too light and kiddie. LWW I would consider a family film. A film that kids, teens, and parents and old people could all enjoy. This movie seems to be a film that really appeals more to younger kids. The reason a lot of parents may be giving it great reviews is because they like that the film they are going into is 100% safe. My problem is that the Chronicles shouldnt just cater to the children. Yes children do make up a huge chunk of the audience, but that doesnt mean the film shouldnt be as good for the older fans as well.

^^^ Do you think that VdT as a book was dark? I'm just curious. If anything, the film was FAR, FAR darker than the book ever was, so I fail to see the grounds for complaint.

I don't think the book or the film were dark. I just feel there was an additional sickly sweet kiddie factor I found prevelant through the film. It's hard to describe. There werent any flat out cheesy jokes like in the first two movies (I didnt even think the "NO!" line was that bad). But there were too many moments that felt like they were trying too hard to be cute and bash us with the "don't give in to temptation!" theme (reminded me of Pinnochio a bit).

I really feel the undragoning was too short, was given a backseat to the battle, and that Eustace and Aslan had no interaction togetehr. I mean, I would have liked to see Aslan talk to Eustace like he did with Edmund and for Eustace to say "sorry" or "thank you" and maybe hear Aslan say how he forgives him and stuff. But instead Eustace magically teleports to Ramandu's Island and somehow swims all of the way to the Dawn Treader once he becomes a boy again.

Another thing with Aslan. I don't like how everytime a character admitted a flaw, he would go out of his way to assure the kids that they are fine "just the way they are". There is a difference between appreicating the way you were created and "be yourself." The former would show a respect to aslan, but the latter seems like the kind of thinking that leads to rebellion.

And while the green mist may be creepy to some, I honestly think its nothing compared to the White Witch (you know in the good old days when she was "alive") or Miraz. In fact I think the novel was more suspensful not so much in having a villain but in conveying fear during Lucy's trip throught he Magician's House, Eustace's personal horror of being left behind on the Island forever as a dragon, a dark island where the threat of real nightmares come true (not silly stuff like Caspian's father being dissapointed in him and the White Witch returning AGAIN). I do feel they got the sea serpant scene right even if not totally true to the book.

Overall I do like the film, but I just think LWW and PC are more appealing to someone my age. Overall I'd say LWW is a film for everyone, Prince Caspian for ages 10 and up, and this movie for ages 12 and under.

Um...I haven't seen the movie, so I guess I can't really say what I think until I do, but even if the movie is really kiddie or for older people, I'll still feel relieved if they at LEAST hit the target themes that makes VDT special to me. Of course, I doubt they'll be able to hit everything(and there may even be horrible disappointments ), but if I can be able to forgive the movie makers for the things I dislike and my contempt be covered by my joy and excitement, that can definitely sort of show that VDT is a prize-winner!

Thank you for all of your reviews, guys!

Eh. All I'm gonna say is, it's not kiddie. At all. So I don't think you'll have to worry about that.

First off, I haven't watched the movie.. But my opinion is that scenes like End of the World and the Dark Island are not kiddie. The themes behind those scenes clearly point to spiritual and divine topics, which are far from 'childish'. Then again I haven't seen the movie, but I feel that those themes are too deep to be considered kiddie; just my opinion. Oh and I'm a 29 year old guy.

I agree with paragraphs two and three to a very great extent, Josh, and I don't even think I can come up with a proper, "But..."

Well, I suppose maybe I'd say it's possible Eustace wasn't teleported and that my initial assumption that he was on the edge of Aslan's country was just plain wrong. But that's irrelevant to the point(s) you made.

I'm not sure I felt the 'cute' vibe, or even thought that a scene was really trying to come across as cute. Cute, to me, implies that it's all sweetness and light and fluff, and I think that the movie and script takes itself a little more seriously than that.

Definitely not a 12 and under movie. I honestly wouldn't really take someone under the age of 10 (depending on the child of course.). It isn't as dark as PC, but the story of VDT isn't as dark either. It does however have it's moments too intense for younger kids. I would go ahead and say that if I had to pick a movie to compare it to in intensity, it's not as intense as say Pirates 3. I know the ratings are different, but I was trying to pick a movie that many people would have seen.

Um, little 5 year olds watched Aslan get murdered in LWW. They can certainly handle this movie. The only scene I would advise parents with young children to watch out for is the sea serpant. That was fairly intense. Maybe because I'm older then when I saw LWW, but I felt LWW was more intense for younger kids.

Maybe I have overlooked what scares a child though. I personally found Miraz in Prince Caspian to be the most frightening villain in the movies because of how realistic a villain he was. You could see a guy like him living in our world. When the Telmarines were attacking the Narnians I didnt feel like I was watching a fantasy tale so thats probably why I felt such a contrast against this movie.

And the first one, I found the White Witch and her minions to be frightening but more on a fantasy level then a real world bad guy (though she can be interpreted as the Devil).

I think maybe if I were 8, the Green Mist and the Dark Island would be more scary to be then Miraz since 8 year old's are probably more scared of nightmares than dictatorship...anyway I feel like I'm rambling.

Anyway I felt that the film did a good job of NOT including cheesy humor. The humor in this movie was very much like what Lewis wrote! That is one area where the series is more mature. I also felt the kids were portrayed more like 1940s kids rather then modern day kids.

First off, I haven't watched the movie.. But my opinion is that scenes like End of the World and the Dark Island are not kiddie. The themes behind those scenes clearly point to spiritual and divine topics, which are far from 'childish'. Then again I haven't seen the movie, but I feel that those themes are too deep to be considered kiddie; just my opinion. Oh and I'm a 29 year old guy.

You are correct. Neither the movie nor the themes are childish. My fear, however, is that this film will be labeled as one for families and for pre-teens, thus limiting its exposure and influence.

This is not a condemnation of the film, but an observation of our culture. We live in a culture that generally responds to the themes of greed, temptation, evil, etc. when they are depicted more graphically. We have become more and more desensitized over the years, and film and music have become more graphic.

Therefore, older teens and young adults come to expect to have these themes presented to them in darker ways than presented in VDT. There is a segment of society that rejects this trend, indeed. But they generally are more spiritually mature and do not need things spelled out for them with more blood, guts and sex. Unfortunately, that is not the majority, imho.

FWIW, I am even older than you and I really enjoyed VDT. It is my hope that I am dead wrong and the teen/young adult demographic responds enthusiastically. Because, it really is not a kiddie movie.