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moonspinner
(@moonspinner)
NarniaWeb Regular

I think I really "gave up" on the series when I was walking out of the theater after watching LWW. I did not like that movie. I've grown to like it, but at the same time, I have never been fond of the movie franchise.

I feel this way. I gave up on the movie franchise after the first movie. I am still a Narnia fan. I will still watch trailers, analyse script changes, post on Narnia forums, etc. But I haven't walked into a cinema to watch a Narnia film since LWW and I doubt that will change as long as Walden owns the right to the franchise.

Posted : September 19, 2011 11:41 pm
Anhun
(@anhun)
NarniaWeb Nut

Maybe, but on Walden Media's FB page... I'm willing to bet that at least 90% of the most recent comments made by fans involve something along the lines of "please make another Narnia movie." -> only one of those was mine :P

If they have decided not to do another Narnia, the fact that so many people visit their facebook page to get Narnia news would give them a strong incentive not to make a formal announcement. Narnia put them on the map, even if the franchise nolonger makes money for them, they can still milk the association.

Posted : September 20, 2011 3:35 pm
Lilygloves
(@lilygloves)
NarniaWeb Junkie

I think after all this time, I would be relieved to know they were making MN, but if there was such a big news blackout after that I would definitely give up. There's no way they're making SC without Will Poulter; he was way to big in VDT for them to have a Eustace without Will. (In my personal opinion, he was one of the few things I liked about the train wreck of VDT movie). I haven't given up entirely on MN, but I have a feeling someone might try to reboot it in a few years. Not like 100 years later, but a good deal of time later. I still have a 10% hope for MN. The rest has given up. But I would expect an official announcement.

Posted : September 20, 2011 4:18 pm
Rilian The Disenchanted
(@rilian-the-disenchanted)
NarniaWeb Nut

I just watched the admissions numbers (estimations) for the Narnia Movies and they dropped hard. A bit depressing, how much people didn't bother to watch the sequels.

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe:

EU (incl. UK) admissions: 32 423 620
UK admissions 9 419 164
US admissions: 45 288 627

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

EU (incl. UK) admissions: 13 457 136
UK admissions: 2 275 441
US admissions: 19 724 442

The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader

EU (incl. UK) admissions: 9 147 996
UK admissions: 1 928 667
US admissions: 11 017 287

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Posted : September 20, 2011 8:48 pm
waggawerewolf27
(@waggawerewolf27)
Member Hospitality Committee

Wagga, is that funeral article about the same Flaherty that does Narnia? :- It mentions relatives. Are those the same relatives our Mike Flaherty has?

How would I know? I'm not in USA, or anywhere near the North American Continent. :D I daresay there really are other blokes called Michael Flaherty, and if it was a Melbourne Cup race, or a guessing competition, I'd bet there were any amount of people around the world called Michael Flaherty. I'd even wonder just how many people called Michael Flaherty there just might be Down Under. Especially if someone with that name turned up in my presence with an overdue library book. =))

Since I have never visited USA, would be lost without a GPS navigator, and have been known to get lost in my own backyard, I really don't know where 'our' Michael Flaherty lives, what his middle name is, or even how old he is. If anything happens to 'our' Michael Flaherty, then I regret to say it is all over Rover as far as Narnia is concerned. Most likely for ever. Goodbye, MN etc.

Meanwhile, I'd be ever so happy to learn that M. Flaherty is alive and well, has matters well in hand, and would be delighted to tell us where MN is at. :p

Posted : September 21, 2011 1:01 am
wolfloversk
(@wolfloversk)
The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

If they have decided not to do another Narnia, the fact that so many people visit their facebook page to get Narnia news would give them a strong incentive not to make a formal announcement. Narnia put them on the map, even if the franchise nolonger makes money for them, they can still milk the association.

Perhaps it is time to consider letter writing. :D Does anyone know what steps a film maker must take to get a movie greenlit?

You guys are giving me ideas again They'd have to give us some kind of announcement if enough people asked them to, no?

@wagga I was wondering the same thing. I was also wondering how does one write to a big company and ensure their letter actually gets read?

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Posted : September 21, 2011 10:16 am
Lilygloves
(@lilygloves)
NarniaWeb Junkie

BTW, I looked at the obituary for Michael Flaherty, and that's definitely not him. I doubt they would mention his enthusiasm for cars without mentioning Walden Media!
So we don't need to worry about that. There is still a small hope for more Narnia movies.

Posted : September 21, 2011 11:14 am
stateofgreen
(@stateofgreen)
NarniaWeb Junkie

Perhaps it is time to consider letter writing. :D Does anyone know what steps a film maker must take to get a movie greenlit?

You guys are giving me ideas again They'd have to give us some kind of announcement if enough people asked them to, no?

@wagga I was wondering the same thing. I was also wondering how does one write to a big company and ensure their letter actually gets read?

If you do write Fox make sure you explicitly explain that you aren't writing a script treatment. Whoever screens the mail for Fox thought my letter was a proposed script and sent it back to me unread. Walden didn't reply to me for the letter I wrote, but Fox did.


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Posted : September 21, 2011 2:54 pm
Anhun
(@anhun)
NarniaWeb Nut

You guys are giving me ideas again They'd have to give us some kind of announcement if enough people asked them to, no?

Actually, I suspect the reverse is true. A lot of people only follow Walden because they want to hear news about Narnia. If Walden makes a broad announcement that Narnia is finished or even on pause, they will lose a lot of followers. The more people ask, the less they would want to give that information.

Posted : September 22, 2011 1:00 am
BowAndArrow
(@bowandarrow)
NarniaWeb Regular

Am I the only one who's OK with the possibility of no more Narnia movies? The three movies out now are the only ones that I think would really appeal to mainstream audiences, and I include myself in that. I love Narnia, but it's gonna take a heck of a job to interpret, visualize and bring to life titles such as The Magician's Nephew and the Last Battle, and marketing would be a mess. Frankly, I don't even think they would MAKE good movies! And as much as people may like Dawn Treader because of the book, it honestly was not that great of a movie. It might be best to wrap this up. Of course studios can always revisit a film and make another version 20 or 30 years later, but it may be best to end on a film that gives somewhat of a conclusion.


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Posted : September 23, 2011 1:35 pm
wolfloversk
(@wolfloversk)
The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

BowAndArrow, I agree that if the rest are gonna be like VDT I probably wouldn't want to see them. But I still have faith that someone will come along and not only make all 7, but make an amazing "instant classic" type series along the way ;)

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Posted : September 23, 2011 3:03 pm
waggawerewolf27
(@waggawerewolf27)
Member Hospitality Committee

Am I the only one who's OK with the possibility of no more Narnia movies? The three movies out now are the only ones that I think would really appeal to mainstream audiences, and I include myself in that. I love Narnia, but it's gonna take a heck of a job to interpret, visualize and bring to life titles such as The Magician's Nephew and the Last Battle, and marketing would be a mess. Frankly, I don't even think they would MAKE good movies! And as much as people may like Dawn Treader because of the book, it honestly was not that great of a movie. It might be best to wrap this up. Of course studios can always revisit a film and make another version 20 or 30 years later, but it may be best to end on a film that gives somewhat of a conclusion.

I don't think that Walden, in particular, has much choice than to persevere with the Narnia stories. Yes there are other movies they could make, but those listed as big news on its website as of last August consist of getting the film rights for Flat Stanley, and an actor for Mavericks. Without a lot of work and inspiration I doubt either production would be as well-known as Narnia. I don't know anything about a Flat Stanley fan base either. The mere fact that so many visitors to its blogsite comment about Narnia and don't mention the advertised movies suggests that these movies are not likely to have much impact at all, even in comparison with VDT.

I agree that films like Transformers, the Pirates of the Caribbean series and the last Harry Potter film were wildly popular and that the USA response to VDT was only so-so. But if Walden stops making films because VDT wasn't as popular as it could have been, then it may as well shut up shop altogether. I know that there is an economic downturn at the moment. All the more reason for firms to fight back and plan for survival. VDT may not have been the wild success hoped for, but it wasn't as disappointing as it could have been, compared to other movies released last Christmas.

I can well imagine that the death of Perry Moore at the beginning of the year did throw a spanner in the works. And it could be the case that before they can make any announcement of a MN movie being greenlit, that Walden needs to organise a scriptwriter and a script first.

The trouble is, I am not sure of that, in the absence of any news at all. I thought one idea for writing to Walden or Fox would be to ask them for information about how films are made, something like if you are doing a school project on it, or even just interested in how firms go about making films after your recent viewing of VDT. ;) Something like asking how do people like JKR get books published. It might be an idea to ask if any sequels are planned for VDT in particular, or what other films are planned in the near future.

I agree that any letter written to such a firm should make it clear that the letter is definitely not a script to be submitted. And of course it would be necessary to be polite, to the point, to be positive and to refrain from launching into any criticisms of their work up to now.

Posted : September 23, 2011 7:03 pm
coracle
(@coracle)
NarniaWeb's Auntie Moderator

For a while we were hearing rumours that Walden had dropped out altogether. More recently, someone claiming to be in contact with Walden is spreading a rumour that they have shelved Narnia, rather than completely dropping out. If that's true, we may never hear an announcement, because they would want to keep their options open.

I gave up replying on this topic because nobody believed the information I was passing on. (I felt like Lucy after her first visit to Narnia).

The truth is that the arrangement between Walden and the C S Lewis Co has expired. Walden no longer has the rights to make Narnia films but has failed to announce this. I understand there is a waiting time required before another company could be offered the rights.
I hope the Estate will find a suitable partner to resume productions with.

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"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : September 24, 2011 12:58 am
Louloudi the Centaur
(@louloudi-the-centaur)
Member Hospitality Committee

Well, if it has come down to this, Walden no longer having the rights to Narnia, I will still not ever give up hope that somebody else will come along the way and make the Narnia films.

As many have mentioned, a remake is a good possibility now that we are in a movie age of making prequels, sequels, and remakes. Besides, now that Harry Potter, the biggest fantasy series as of now is over, maybe the Estate will be able to find a studio like Warner Bros. to take over and start their own series. Maybe someone there will make an adaptation and film so great that the series will get larger acclaim and attention.

As I said, I'm not giving up hope that another studio will come and save Narnia. I'm not going to stop coming to NW either, since after all, it doesn't say they just give news on Walden Narnia movies, but Narnia Movie News. ;)

Hey, and if no other film series are to come, NW is still a great place to debate about the books.

I wonder how long it will take for Walden to make a formal announcement that they don't own the rights to make film adaptations of Narnia anymore? Why would they not announce this?

Posted : September 24, 2011 3:15 am
daughter of the King
(@dot)
Princess Dot Moderator

Why would they announce it? It's all about marketing and PR. Announcing that they no longer have the rights to the one series that fans keep asking them about would be detrimental to the company. Walden has produced other movies, but none of them have the following that Narnia has. As long as fans still think they own the rights the fans will pay attention to what Walden does. The moment the fans have no reason to keep coming back they won't. There is nothing to be gained by announcing that they aren't making any more Narnia films.

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Posted : September 24, 2011 3:26 am
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