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Josh
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Okay, honestly they need to make that movie. It is by far the best book in the series and it's one of the easier ones to adapt without drastic changes.

I have waited so long for this movie. Prince Caspian and Voyage of the Dawn Treader were my least favorite chronicles of Narnia books, yet i've been very supportive of those films hoping Silver CHair would get made. I would be so angry if we got this close to seeing Silver Chair and the movie got canceled.

Honestly, I think the film would be a fresh start. I'm pretty sure Tilda won't play The Lady of the Green Kirtle since it was clear in the Voyage of the Dawn Treader that she was only a figment of Edmund's nightmares. And there is no way to bring Peter and Susan back unless they show them returning to pick up Ed and Lucy (which wouldnt be the end of the world).

Just think of all the opprotunities teh Silver CHair can provide. For some who were dissapointed with Caspian/Lilliandil's romance in VotDT, it can give closure to that storyline and maybe develop it a bit more. Maybe even show the wedding.

It would allow the return of Will Poulter who is terrific as Eustace. And Puddleglum is one of the best chacters in the series. Say what you want about plot changes, but the filmakers have been pretty good with casting the Narnian characters. I'm sure with a character as big as Puddleglum, they'd get him right.

Who else hopes there WILL be a Silver Chair?

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Topic starter Posted : December 11, 2010 3:44 pm
Lucy of Narnia
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I do!! Will Poulter blew me away! He was perfect for the part! I love the goodbye to Reepicheep!! They need to have another Eustace movie!! :D

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Posted : December 11, 2010 3:49 pm
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I am not optimistic that there will be a SC. It is a shame. I would love to see it.

I saw the VDT again today, and I stand by my original take. It is a good movie. I enjoyed it even more the 2nd time through. It would be a blessing if SC gets the green light.

Posted : December 11, 2010 4:00 pm
Dekkie
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I absolutely do! VDT was a disappointment... a rather large one, but it's not enough for me to give up on my 2nd favorite book of the series! What a fantastic movie it could be! Eustace, Jill, Puddleglum, a new and improved villain - LOTGK, the signs, the giant's bridge, underworld, aslan's country at the beginning and end, caspian's "resurrection," it has such great potential! But then so did VDT, IMO :-s . However, I'm willing to give the filmmakers, with hopefully new writers and director, another chance. I pray they get it.

*goes to sleep listening to the FOTF Radio Theatre adaptation, dreaming of SC movie awesomeness*

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Posted : December 11, 2010 4:02 pm
Tirian541
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If they mess-up SC I might not watch any more Narnia movies :P ... we will see...

My hopes for SC are as follows:
I hope they pick a really good person to play Jill Pole not only cause she is my favorite girl in the books, but cause in the books (to me at least) she was kinda out going and strong in personality.
Puddleglum has to be a good actor who has read SC at least 4 times. :D
I hope the actress who plays the LotGK is the same who played the WW (although some people don't think so I always thought them as the same person or related).
If they make it in 3d don't over do the 3d and focus mainly on the storyline.

Posted : December 11, 2010 4:28 pm
Lirenel
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If they get new writers, and maybe a new director, and get a great Jill Pole and Puddleglum cast, then yes, I hope they make SC. But *only* if they get some new writers.


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Posted : December 11, 2010 4:38 pm
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I hope for Silver Chair because I wan t to see more of the redeemed Eustace and how Jil intereacts with him and how brave he is and how tender Jill is in LB. In Sc, Jill is kind of aggressive but she's almost like Lucy in LB.

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Posted : December 12, 2010 5:24 am
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Personally, I hope they make *all* the movies no matter how much they mess them up. However, I do think that SC will work out beautifully as a movie and I would love to see what they do with the giants and puddle glum, etc. Bring it on!


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Posted : December 12, 2010 5:46 am
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The only thing that gives me any reason to believe that a Silver Chair movie might still get made at this point, is that unlike most other movie series out there, this is one where the studio behind it (Walden Media) has a strong desire to continue producing them for their own reasons, and not just a desire to make money of them.

Obviously there becomes a point where it is no longer financially viable to make them, regardless of the amount of willing from the people involved, and i do think we are verging on that point right now. HHB, MN and LB are all certainly never going to happen now - they were always the three with the biggest creative and financial risk attached to them and there is just no way any distributor is going to stump up the necessary money to make them, because given how much they would cost to produce, they would now know that they would never make a sufficent amount of money back from the boxoffice to justify it.

Silver Chair however is a fairly low-key Narnia tale in terms of its characters, locations, creatures, etc. It always seems to me the one you could make perfectly fine on a fairly limited budget. Take the BBC TV Series for example- Puppety-snake aside, the Silver Chair adaptation still stands up reasonably well, and that was surely made for a lot less than 100m.

Knowing their own limitations, i don't see why they couldn't produce an version of Silver Chair on a reduced budget and then call it a day. Aside from Last Battle, finishing on Silver Chair is perhaps the most logical stopping point for them, and there would certainly be no shame in conceding defeat as far as the final 3 books are concerned. So i hope that Walden's desire is strong enough for them to go ahead with Silver Chair and give the series a proper ending. I think it would look bad on them as a company to have their flagship series end in prematurely in such an awkward position in the series.

And if Walden Media don't do Silver Chair, then i can't honestly see what they as a company are going to do, because they haven't put together a single other film which has been critically or financially sucessful. Someone less kind than me might describe the majority of their output as "garbage", but i'm not that person. Would they really continue as they are whilst sitting on the one viable cinematic property they own and doing nothing with it? I think they need Narnia almost as much as Narnia needs them.

So in spite of everything that was wrong with VDT (not just in terms of it as an adaptation but as a standalone movie), i would still like to see them do Silver Chair. Sure it might end up being terrible, but then at least we would have a set of 4 BBC adaptations and 4 Walden Media adaptations, and i think i could be quite happy with that (my OCD tendencies would certainly be happy with the symmetry). And then who knows, maybe someone else will come along in another 15 years and have another stab at adapting them.

Posted : December 12, 2010 6:45 am
Aravis Narnia
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If they keep it short and dynamic like they did with VDT, then I see no reason why SC should not happen. I cannot imagine the budget being larger than for PC/VDT/LWW. And they can find a way to put the Pevensies in it- flashback, side story, anything else.

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Posted : December 12, 2010 7:03 am
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If SC ends up being as choppy as VDT, then i don't think I would care about it really. However I want them to have it greenlit and try...

To be honest, with the amount VDT is currently making, I doubt it will happen. :((


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Posted : December 12, 2010 8:09 am
moo25
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I'm desperate for Silver Chair to be made into a movie! It was always my favourite book, and it would be so wonderful on the big screen. Jill was always my favourite girl, and I love how she interacts with Eustace. Puddleglum is too awesome for words...
It has so much potential, especially because it's easier to adapt than VDT. It already has a specific villain, a very specific goal it's working towards...they wouldn't have to make so many plot changes...
I will actually cry if they end up not making it. I'd be happy if they didn't do another after SC- they would have made as many as the BBC, and the three after this one are the hardest to get onto film.

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Posted : December 12, 2010 8:35 am
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They have to get new people for Silver Chair or I have a feeling we will be having deja vu. I know there is a central villian to fight but in alot of ways it is just these two (and later three) characters having a series of unrelated adventures to get to this goal of finding a Prince we've never heard of. The villian doesn't really come into the story until the end. Its--here comes that word again--episodic.

I'm not, repeat not, saying that I think SC is not adaptable--I would love to see it on the big screen. I think its very adaptable and would make a great movie. But if they don't get new writers and a director who actually likes the story, I'm afraid we will get something unrecognizable. At this point it feels like the movie makers can't do a film without epic battles. Where would they fit those in the story? There just isn't anyplace. What big character flaw would they assign for each character to overcome? They seem to be unable to do a movie without this. There's no one to want to be king so they can't do that for a third time. The story is about overcoming adversity, keeping faith when everything has gone wrong and you have screwed everything up. Its about our heroes braving exhaustion and frost bite-- and running for their lives. The goal is stronger than the one in Dawn Treader but I can see movie makers saying--"its just a long walk across a frozen wasteland with a small battle at the end" and miss the whole point. It seems there is an "epic action required" tag on these movies. How are they going to deal with the fact that there is none of this kind of action throughout most of the story.

It would make a great movie, in my opinion. I think of the movie "Far and Away"--two people go through a series of unrelated adventures for the ultimate goal of owning their own land. It was a great movie. But Narnia is fantasy and seems to be subject to some sort of unwritten rules that all movies in this genre have to follow.

How do you all think they would handle Silver Chair? Do you think they would have the LOtGK attack them along the way--have her take a more active role in turning them from their goal, instead of just the one time. Do you think they will bring back the green mist and have it appear every time something goes wrong?

I think they have to make the audience invested. When watching the movie we have to feel how much they want to reach their goal, how tired and cold and irritated they are, how tempting Harfang is. How devastated they are when they realize they've muffed another sign. The audience needs to want to cheer for them and wonder if they are going to make it. Tht would make an awesome movie and I am fervently hoping they can pull it off.

Posted : December 13, 2010 11:25 am
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I don't know if the Silver Chair would really be all that much less expensive than VDT. Sure, a lot of the movie would only consist of 3 main characters wandering around landscapes, but there are numerous technically difficult and special-effects heavy sequences - the beginning of the movie where Aslan blows them away, the parliament of owls, the Giants of Harfang, the Underground Kingdom, and the Bism.

The only reason I support the Narnia movies continuing to be made, even if the adaptions aren't that good, is so I can at least see Narnia films with quality production values, actors, and special effects. I would be very disappointed with a weak visualization of the Underground Kingdom and the Bism. Would it be possible for Silver Chair to be produced on a $75-$100 million budget? I don't think so, if it were to be done well from a technical point of view.

Posted : December 13, 2010 11:55 am
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HHB, MN and LB are all certainly never going to happen now - they were always the three with the biggest creative and financial risk attached to them

icarus, could you explain this further? Do you mean because they've never been made before or do you mean because of the plot? If you mean the plot then I disagree with HHB, as long as they know enough not to focus to much on the Pevensies, it should be pretty straightforward. (unless of course you mean the whole "racism" issue, which I believe can be easily overcome as well...)

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Posted : December 13, 2010 1:18 pm
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