I still have tiny insecurities about the new Narnia movie but it was a big improvement I'll add. It's now my favorite Narnia film and I hope to see another improving adaptation in Silver Chair.

VotDT was a debacle?! Did we watch the same movie?? lol

Most people aren't so crazy about the books as we are. They don't want perfection and word-for-word adaptions. Speaking from experience, they want a great movie. LotR for example. They changed quite a lot. But did it so well it went on to win Academy Awards.

Yes it was a debacle even without compairing it to the book it was a bad movie at best. Bad acting, bad script, bad directing, and just a bad underlying plot i mean seriously the villian of this movie is some green mist. Don't make a villian if you can't make a good one....

The LOTR did so well because they were good movies, I can appreciate movies that arn't 100% on line with the book. The movie just has to be done well. and the VDT was not done well at all.

And in the spirit of staying on topic like I said before I don't wish the series to go on even if the SC was an okay movie because we have the VDT always in the series. And at this point I can only hope for a remake of the series to make a set that I will be happy to have in my video collection.

To more or less quote GlumPuddle they were handed a gift (as in the Narnia books) And they screw it up... I amazes me the people can make great movies out of nothing. Yet it seems to me that people will always constantly screw up on making movies from books for no reason.

i mean seriously the villian of this movie is some green mist. Don't make a villian if you can't make a good one....

The green mist is not a villian. It is the reaction of Narnia to the presence of evil.

Is evil a bad concept to work with in a film? I guess it depends on the viewer. People have debated the presence of evil since human thought developed. But, the idea as the green mist as a villain is not what they were attempting.

I do not have a problem with using evil as a foil. It seems to be a pretty good foil for actual human beings to this day.

^ If that was what they were attempting, it wasn't executed properly at all. It ended up looking like a random mist that is EVIL!! O.O Nothing more. I mean the scene where the mist wrestles with Eustace made me laugh out loud it was so weird.

^ If that was what they were attempting, it wasn't executed properly at all. It ended up looking like a random mist that is EVIL!! O.O Nothing more. I mean the scene where the mist wrestles with Eustace made me laugh out loud it was so weird.

according to the interview with D Gresham, that is what they were attempting. whether they executed it properly is certainly a matter worthy of discussion. perhaps someone will start a thread?

The producers need to do Silver Chair. If not, it's a waste of Will P's talent. Just kick out Apted and the scriptwriters and hire others.

As what one Narniaweb member said, Tim Burton should not direct SC. He's too dark to make the Narnia films and if he WOULD, BIG CHANCES of having Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter as two of the Narnian characters. That would not be a bad thing at the box office, but we should have higher expectations on the film itself, especially that the two actors mentioned are considered great in the acting industry today.

Peter Jackson might be the next option, but he is working in The Hobbit, which is another Tolkien masterpiece. If he directs SC, chances are, he will get known actors for the supporting roles and have this film at the Oscars! Isn't this fantastic? Narnia should be welcome to the Oscars.

Kenneth Branagh is another excellent filmmaker. He has 4 Oscar noms and he is considered one of UK's best actors/directors. His film experience is often at his Shakespearean adaptations and even stars in some of them. He directed Thor which is on May 2011 release, and it is another fantasy film like Narnia. I just hope he directs Narnia since he's a good director.

Guillermo del Toro should have directed LWW, but he declined it to do Pan's Labyrinth. To be honest, I'm not a fan of horror movies, but too bad he missed the chance of directing Narnia. (But I don't think he did. Pan's Labyrinth got an Oscar) He would teach our Narnia actors the good way to act, period. But sometimes he's creepy. Dang.

Alfonso Cuaron is another Mexican filmmaker like GDT. He directed HP 3. Just wishing he directs Narnia since this is a good showcase of his talent. Who knows? He might give SC a very dark twist like we've never imagined before!

I'm not sure of who should make the Narnia script, but I hope they are the ones who master Lewis's works and know how to write a good script of it.

But THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR SILVER CHAIR!!

I gave up on these movies a LONG time ago. I consider them all to be disasters--I only went to see VDT because 1) my brother gave me free movie tickets he had won in a raffle and 2) I've been stressed out with finals and I needed a laugh.

I can't take this personally anymore; this book is very dear to my heart (I wrote more in my review) but the film was a joke.

I would be astounded if, after this disaster, they somehow manage to make SC. But yeah. It is time for the madness to end. Coriakin needs to make it disappear...to protect us all!

I'm not sure how they think they Green Mist worked, yes it was a visual personification of evil in Narnia, but if the Green Mist is all the evil in Narnia, then once it's destroyed, theoretically there should be no more evil...

I think WE understand that they were trying not to create a villian, but to create the "presence of evil" into a tangible thing they can destroy, but in the movie it did come across, at least to me, like a villian.

I think if they had a better script writer for SC it would make all the difference. I haven't been impressed by the script in either of the movies. I know Peter Jackson is working on the Hobbit, but if they could have his script writing team write SC, I know it would be fantastic. He knows how to tell a fantasy story from a book, and they know how to incorporate tons of almost word for word quotes from the book to make the movie true to the characters and world. C.S. Lewis is a master at diolauge, and none of it's richness has been included where it would have been easy to put it in.

Here's how I view it:

They got it perfect once-LWW- so we know it can be done. PC was almost perfect, but there were a few things that needed to be severly edited (Peter) and a few that could be ommitted (Suspian), but overall it was really good. VDT, they overcorrected the problems with PC, script-wise it could use a severe edit, in terms of character development and theme recognition.

They have four books left, so they have tp get at least one of them right. If there was only one book left I might feel that way, but they have enough chances left I think.

What they need is a very long conference to think about trying to keep the same audience. And ways to keep changes subtle, and only make nessecary ones.

I'm not sure how they think they Green Mist worked, yes it was a visual personification of evil in Narnia, but if the Green Mist is all the evil in Narnia, then once it's destroyed, theoretically there should be no more evil...

It is not the personification of evil.

It is the reaction of Narnia to the presence of evil (not my words but Douglas Gresham's).

There is no destroying of the mist which leads to banishment of evil, because the mist is not the villain.

But this is off topic and needs its own thread.

The green mist appears when someone is about to be tempted. What if the green mist was somehow tendrils of smoke from the LotGK fire? You know, the green fire she lights in SC to tempt Eustace, Jill, and Puddleglum into believing that there is no Overworld. This is how I prefer they connect VDT and SC, as it would make the most sense.

Right now, I think there is a possibility of SC. Beyond that, I'm not very hopeful. It'd be nice to have at least SC, though. A matched set. And if in x amount of years in the future another adaptation is begun, I wish they'd start with MN and HHB, the stand-alone books that still don't have movies!
Not that I expect them to do that. Of course they'll want to start with good ol' LWW - the famous one.

The green mist appears when someone is about to be tempted. What if the green mist was somehow tendrils of smoke from the LotGK fire? You know, the green fire she lights in SC to tempt Eustace, Jill, and Puddleglum into believing that there is no Overworld. This is how I prefer they connect VDT and SC, as it would make the most sense.

That would make sense. It's horrible, but it would make sense.

I'm sorry that the green mist needed to be used at all. I think VDT should have been more of a grand sight-seeing adventure as opposed to a mission to defeat a disembodied enemy. The characters did need to face the lessons of temptation, but there was opportunity to expand those on Deathwater, the Dark Island, etc.
Anyway, I'm sure that's all been picked over enough!

As for making Silver Chair and the other films- I hope they do! I've been somewhat disappointed with all the films so far but I am ever optimistic about the future! It's always nice to have productions with a decent budget to look at! I do agree that new screenwriters are badly needed though.

This is not the Discuss the Nature of the Green Mist thread. If you would like to discuss that, please take it to an appropriate thread.