Oops! Yes, I meant that Cor and Aravis marry at the end but I don't want them flirting during the movie.The marriage should be when they are much older without hints during the movie- that is the way I took it when I read the book: first they didn't get along, then they were friends, and WAY later they got married, after they grew up.
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Sorry, this is my favourite of the Narnia movies, and yet I think it will be the least likely Narnia film to be made.
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2. No Tilda Swinton and do they really want to bring back the Pevensies?3. No Eustace and Jill.
4. The film makers seem to be half-committed to making SC at some stage, and perhaps SC and LB might be made back-to-back, since both have Eustace and Jill. Where does that leave HHB?
2. I think the Pevensie actors, combined, have at least as much caché as Tilda, especially if they replace Edmund with Peter. Now I originally suggested the switch for artistic reasons, but, for commercial purposes, it doesn't hurt that William Moseley has a wider fan base than Skandar Keynes (based on web fandom at least). Also, Anna is currently poised to become an American TV star. Georgie's the most popular of the five Narnia kids, although she barely counts, since she only has a cameo. And let's not forget Tumnus played by James McAvoy, a B-list film star with a solid fanbase.
3. If HHB comes before SC, as fantasia kitty suggested, then this will be irrelevent. Otherwise, I think they could get over it. There are still plenty of familiar faces with important roles.
4. Could someone please explain to me how they could make LB without introducing the Calormenes in HHB first? I have brought up this point a couple times, and no one's ever given me a decent counter argument. In HHB, most of the book is set in Calormen, so the introduction to Calormene culture fits perfectly with the story. If they introduce the Calormene's in LB, it will seem like they're coming out of nowhere, and much explication will be required that doesn't dovetail well with the story.
4. Could someone please explain to me how they could make LB without introducing the Calormenes in HHB first? I have brought up this point a couple times, and no one's ever given me a decent counter argument. In HHB, most of the book is set in Calormen, so the introduction to Calormene culture fits perfectly with the story. If they introduce the Calormene's in LB, it will seem like they're coming out of nowhere, and much explication will be required that doesn't dovetail well with the story.
Oh, that's a really good point! So, they'll make SC after MN, then HHB, and then LB. Maybe we will have the complete Chronicle after all!
Arwen, I'm positive Walden would love to make all seven books into movies, if they could. The problem is getting the funding together.
6. Saying MN does well, seeing as it hasn't been done beforehand, then the next movie most definitely will be SC, since that one is the other movie that is being argued about currently.
The reason why SC and MN are the two contenders is that SC would provide the best continuity from VDT, whereas MN is perceived to be the most popular, based on book sales. Now the latter is flawed logic, in my opinion, but you can read all about that in the Logic Behind Making MN Next thread.
Basically, HHB is not being considered right now because VDT doesn't lead into it in any way, and it doesn't have the highest book sales of the three. Now, if MN is made next, and is successful enough to justify continuation of the series (huge if), then when they consider which book to be made next, there is actually a good chance that they will pick HHB. SC will no longer have the advantage of continuity, because continuity will have flown out the window with MN. And as for book sales, I'm not sure, but I think HHB has sold more than SC. At the very least, HHB will be considered.
I really don't want them to cut Edmund from the film. Fine, if they must put in Peter because of his fan base, have him come back for the war or something. Don't let him ruin Edmund's scenes. This is my third favorite book.
I'm hoping that the older Pevensie actors and actresses get used in HHB. I really like the way they looked in LWW, and they would help the story to focus more on Aravis and Shasta. I wouldn't mind Peter being brought in to the story, but I really like Ed taking the lead on protecting his older sister.
I think the original Pevensie actors should play in HHB. And I would rather Peter not be there. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Peter, I would just really want them to stick to the book.
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Besides if you have Peter in HHB it spoils not only the film but also the previously made films. For instance, in LWW and PC we've already seen that Peter can lead and we don't need a repetition of that. What we do need in HHB is a substantiation of what Edmund says at the beginning of VDT that he has led armies, and that he is a king.
HHB is Edmund's big moment, where we see him as having learned a lot from his LWW adventures. He is the one who is wary of Rabadash, gets Susan out of the fix the Narnians are in, and who comes to the rescue of King Lune, thanks to Shasta's warning. Of course he is also the one who picks up Shasta, mistaking him for Corin, which seems a dumb thing to do in retrospect, when the boys are so different in character.
I'm not fussed if it is the grown up Edmund from LWW, rather than Skandar, but it still has to be Edmund.
That's a good point, Wagga. It would be new and different to see Edmund in charge, instead of a 3rd go-round at Will M yelling "For Narnia!" I think I might enjoy watching Mark Wells in that role, but Skandar needs to go. If they absolutely must stick with the original kids, I would still rather see them replace Edmund with Peter, than watch Skandar sleep walk his way through the movie.
On the other hand, given how popular Georgie-as-Lucy has become, I think it would be a commercial mistake to replace her with Rachel, as Lady Arwen suggested, and it doesn't make much of an artistic difference one way or the other, given how small the part is. I'm not sure how I feel about replacing Anna with Sophie Winkleman. I think Sophie's the more talented actress, but Anna's probably more bankable.
Anhun, I agree that the younger Pevensie actors would probably be easier to market. However I think Skander would do a good job, so I'd like to see him back. I think they would have to choose one way or another: use the younger actors for all the Pevensies or the older actors for all the Pevensies. I think it would look odd if, lets say, Georgie played Lucy and Sophie played Susan or something like that.
I also agree with waggawerewolf27 that Edmund needs to be there instead of Peter for that same reasons. We have seen that Peter can be a king and a leader. Its time audiences get to see Edmund show that as well.
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Or you could just skip Edmund and replace his role with Lucy.
No offense, Bookwyrm, but I hope you're not being serious. I understand some people don't like Skander's acting, but we need to keep Edmund in his role as leader for HHB.
HHB is Edmund's big moment, where we see him as having learned a lot from his LWW adventures. He is the one who is wary of Rabadash, gets Susan out of the fix the Narnians are in...
I'm not fussed if it is the grown up Edmund from LWW, rather than Skandar, but it still has to be Edmund.
Exactly my thoughts!
Of course he is also the one who picks up Shasta, mistaking him for Corin, which seems a dumb thing to do in retrospect, when the boys are so different in character.
Mm, I don't think it was dumb. After all, they look exactly alike, and how many Northern-looking young boys are going to be running about Tashbaan?!
King Edmund & Co. are walking through a strange city looking for their lost prince. They spot him in the crowd and never really give him a chance to explain himself, sweeping off to the palace.
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Anhun, I agree that the younger Pevensie actors would probably be easier to market. However I think Skander would do a good job, so I'd like to see him back. I think they would have to choose one way or another: use the younger actors for all the Pevensies or the older actors for all the Pevensies. I think it would look odd if, lets say, Georgie played Lucy and Sophie played Susan or something like that.
First of all, while Skandar has, in my opinion, the most raw acting talent of the Narnia kids, talent is not enough. You have to feel the part and want to make the audience feel it too. We saw that in LWW and PC. Edmund was, in deed, my favorite character in PC. But in VDT, the enthusiasm just wasn't there. He was still believable, but he wasn't interesting. Even Gary Sweet, whose part was far less developed, had more screen-presence than Skandar. It also comes through in his interviews. In most of them, Skandar just didn't seem like he wanted to be there. He's even mentioned that he's not interested in acting as a profession.
Secondly, given how much younger movie-Lucy is than her siblings, I don't think it would be a problem to show Lucy still played by Georgie, while the older siblings have already transformed into there "adult selves." I do, however, partially agree with you in that I think it would be weird to recast Edmund, but not Susan.
Of course he is also the one who picks up Shasta, mistaking him for Corin, which seems a dumb thing to do in retrospect, when the boys are so different in character.
Mm, I don't think it was dumb. After all, they look exactly alike, and how many Northern-looking young boys are going to be running about Tashbaan?!
King Edmund & Co. are walking through a strange city looking for their lost prince. They spot him in the crowd and never really give him a chance to explain himself, sweeping off to the palace.
True, but even identical twins develop differences over time. And there were some corkers of differences between the two boys. Even torn and dirty princely clothing might still look a bit better than second-hand peasants' gear, for one thing.
Then there was the mannerisms of the two boys. Shasta 'hung his head like a Calormene slave' because he grew up as one. When Corin finally materialises I found myself wondering how well Edmund knew the lad, how much attention he had paid to him and why didn't he check out what Corin would be wearing when he went missing?
Furthermore, it probably was a nice holiday for Corin to go to Tashbaan with the likes of Susan and Edmund, and it seems as if Susan was the one who was really looking after him. But how much did either Edmund or Susan know of Corin's backstory, do you think?
Shouldn't Edmund have been a bit embarrassed by his picking up the wrong boy?
I think they should include a scene where the stag arrives at Cair Paravel and tells Lucy about Rabadash's coming attack.