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eirin799
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i suppose this isn't strictly a rumour, but more something i had an inkling about and of which i am ever so slightly worried. of course, i'm rather new here, so correct me if i've posted in the wrong place.

i've noticed on the official narnia films website that a lot of plot spoilers are given as to the futures of the characters. of course, it's all in accord with the books, but still, i find it odd that the films would give away the details of events in the far future. an example can be found in lucy's character description:

Spoiler
"lucy was the most faithful of the four and never stopped believing in narnia," it says, "and along with her brothers peter and edmund, died in a train crash in england were transported to aslan's country with the other narnians" (sic).

why would they include this bit if it weren't to be covered in the plot of the movie the website advertises?
might this be the last film and more of a mashup of all the other plots? of course we'd not be able to get far in-depth with each plot, but in a way it does make sense-- after all, vdt is a bit of an epic or a philosophical tale, in that the plot isn't very... it's not the film industry's current standard with a beginning-middle-end type plot. (we're not the film industry's current standard viewers.) events occur and mini-lessons are learnt, yes but they're more of... a series of events, if you catch my drift. so, in a way, combining elements of all the books may well have more appeal to them-- first, they can bring back will and anna; second, they might edit the plots (ack, i know, but hey, they're trying to sell) to allow the best parts to form a story without constantly bringing in new characters (think about, say, hhb. doesn't seem likely that could be included anywhere); and third, it would give more of a sense of closure to the story.

just a few thoughts of mine. ;) and i'm hoping they make sense.

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Topic starter Posted : June 19, 2010 4:22 pm
icarus
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I wouldn't read too much into the content of the official website at the moment. Most of the information for the biographies pages it seems was just copied and pasted from the Wikia Narnia website, presumably to be used as placeholder information until they have time to write ones of their own based on the new movie, rather than based on the books as those ones are.

There are plenty of other sections of the website which are unfinished too, so i really wouldn't worry about it

Posted : June 19, 2010 5:13 pm
decarus
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I don't mean to be blunt, but i think that you should put this in spoiler tags. While i may have read the books many times some people haven't. Isn't this a spoiler and what spoiler tags should be for? Just write i am ruining the end of the books and put it in spoiler tags.

I don't understand what the title of this thread has to do with what you wrote.

I just think the end of the books is too good to ruin especially since this is the film section of the forum.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 6:31 pm
coracle
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I agree that it seems strange to give such major spoilers and am hoping they will get something better to take its place very soon!
And I know Walden wants to make all seven films.

EDIT: Decarus, the first post asks
"why would they include this bit if it weren't to be covered in the plot of the movie the website advertises?
might this be the last film and more of a mashup of all the other plots? "
They want to know whether material from the last story has been included in this film, thus making a trilogy.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 6:33 pm
Glenstorm the Great
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I really hope that this won't be the last film! All 4 Pevensies being in it kinda leads me to worry about that... :-s . But I remain hopeful! I know that Walden wants to do all 7, so I hope they're not planning to end with this one.

Posted : June 19, 2010 7:20 pm
Lilliandil
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Wasn't it that Andrew Adamson thought that if VDT didn't do as well as LWW then they would stop it as a trilogy? I wouldn't want that to happen, but many people of the new generation do not consider Narnia as interesting.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 8:41 pm
bkey
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I don't get that vibe. The producers have already been talking about the future films, how Tilda Swinton wants The Magician's Nephew to be made next, and things of that nature. Obviously if this movie completely bombs it might be the writing on the wall to end the series, but I don't think that the plan is to just have a trilogy and end it with VDT.

From a financial standpoint it doesn't make sense either. Hollywood likes to milk their franchises for every last cent, and as long as the Narnia saga continues to make money, there will be a studio willing to produce them.

Posted : June 20, 2010 2:58 am
Leah B.
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I hope that it's not just a trilogy... I really think it just depends on whether or not VotDT makes enough money.

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Posted : June 20, 2010 4:20 am
DamselJillPole
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No I seriously doubt the this movie will end as the trilogy because the production of Walden Media has already clarified that they are going to try and make all of the movies as they can as long as VDT does good. i don't know why they would put all of those spoilers to narnia's plot on their website. But no Silver Chair on IMDB is waiting to be greenlit. ;)


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Posted : June 20, 2010 8:44 am
Lady Galadriel
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Edit: Apparently it's "under consideration" to add the White Witch in all seven movies, so I think they want to do all seven as long as VDT does financially well.

I have a hard time with the fact that Lucy's bio on narnia.com says how so much about her. But if the VDT film is truly intending to add in at the end, surely wouldn't the film people keep it secret? Why would they carelessly give away such a big spoiler on the movie? I don't think they would. And since the bios must be taken from the Wikia Narnia site (as icarus said), I think someone probably just didn't think about it being such a huge spoiler!

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Posted : June 20, 2010 8:59 am
Aravis Narnia
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If the BBC was able to produce 4 books into episodes back then- why wouldn't Walden Media be able to make all 7 books nowadays?

Posted : June 20, 2010 11:19 am
eirin799
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time to defend myself against the angry mob... >.>

I don't mean to be blunt, but i think that you should put this in spoiler tags. While i may have read the books many times some people haven't. Isn't this a spoiler and what spoiler tags should be for? Just write i am ruining the end of the books and put it in spoiler tags.

done, i wasn't aware i could do that. i offer the appropriate apologies.

I don't understand what the title of this thread has to do with what you wrote.

since i was questioning whether any further films would be made, if none past vdt were, the narnia films would form a trilogy. that's all.

I just think the end of the books is too good to ruin especially since this is the film section of the forum.

i was quoting the official narnia films website, realise i should have spoiler-tagged it, and have done so.

Wasn't it that Andrew Adamson thought that if VDT didn't do as well as LWW then they would stop it as a trilogy? I wouldn't want that to happen, but many people of the new generation do not consider Narnia as interesting.

this last bit was a point i took into consideration in writing my first post. as for the rest, i was not aware of that but it does sort of make sense, sadly enough.

All 4 Pevensies being in it kinda leads me to worry about that...

yeah...considering the film industry is vying for commercial success, it doesn't seem to me as if they'd be quick to lose two coveted protagonists that made the first two movies quite popular indeed. i'm hoping it'll be nothing more than a cameo, but

From a financial standpoint it doesn't make sense either. Hollywood likes to milk their franchises for every last cent, and as long as the Narnia saga continues to make money, there will be a studio willing to produce them.

the thing is, religious/philosophical stories tend not to sell as well as action or drama or whatever else one could stamp an exclamation point after. people of this society don't typically enjoy being preached to. if they were to tweak the plots or even combine them-- and i'm not saying i would support either decision-- perhaps some masterpiece (in their minds) could be formed that would end a blockbuster. most people aren't true fans of narnia, rather, they're just seeking a nice outing to the cinema. they won't think like us, and they outnumber us-- hence, their ticket sales will amount to more than ours no matter how many times we watch.

Why would they carelessly give away such a big spoiler on the movie? I don't think they would.

hm. you certainly have a point there, but equally, why would they carelessly give away such a big spoiler on how the conclusion of all their films will be?

I wouldn't read too much into the content of the official website at the moment. Most of the information for the biographies pages it seems was just copied and pasted from the Wikia Narnia website, presumably to be used as placeholder information until they have time to write ones of their own based on the new movie, rather than based on the books as those ones are.

There are plenty of other sections of the website which are unfinished too, so i really wouldn't worry about it

thank you for that, i have now been brought to better understanding. makes more sense now.

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Topic starter Posted : June 20, 2010 4:18 pm
Bookwyrm
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Eirin has very graciously edited her post to hide the spoilers, so I would appreciate it if everyone could please keep LB spoilers safely hidden.

Posted : June 20, 2010 6:08 pm
~DaughterOfEve~
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I had the feeling it might seem like a trilogy and in a weird way it is a trilogy because this is last one that we have Edmund and Lucy. They are told they are too old to return to Narnia like Peter and Susan were in PC and so the Pevensie trilogy ends and the story will continue on with Eustace and Jill. I see VDT as the end of the Pevensie storyline (for the time being) and the beginning of Eustace's adventures in Narnia so its like a transition story that needs to rock the box office to continue the story with SC.

Posted : June 21, 2010 9:05 am
Liberty Hoffman
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whoa! that makes so much sense! I would hate it if they didn't continue, but if what eirin799 said is right, then that would explain Peter and Susan's appearance in the trailer! :-o wow.....this is weird!


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Posted : June 21, 2010 10:02 am
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