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Lucy of Narnia
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Okay, first off let me explain with this thread is not: it is not a place to discuss whether or not Magician's Nephew would make more/less money than Silver Chair. It is not a place to say how the franchise is doing, etc. This thread is purely to get answers to this question: Is it true that most fans want SC over MN to be made next? I could be wrong but I think this is the case. And, if so, is there anything we fans can do about it?

Note: I know money plays into this a lot too, because if Fox/Walden decide to do MN next it will most likely be because of the money, so money might come up some. I understand that. I just didn't want this thread to turn into a repeat of the Box Office thread or anything. :)

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Topic starter Posted : April 25, 2011 9:53 am
Shastafan
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I am in fact one of the fans that doesn't really mind which one we get next. One reason why I worry about is that it'll get very confusing if they do MN, then SC, then HBB, and finally LB. But I like MN a little bit better than SC, so really, I think it'd be neat to get both of them, no matter which order.

But is there really anything we fans can do? Nope, for whether or not most of us fans complain that SC should be first, Walden and Fox get the final say in this matter, and they'll do whatever they can to get money (sorry, had to mention that ;;) ). And if you think it over, even if this wouldn't happen, wouldn't it be better to have a great adaption and awesome film of MN first because the filmmakers are excited about it, or we hope, at least, instead a badly done, terrible adaption of SC first because the filmmakers weren't excited?

I guess will have to wait and see, but either way, I'm nervous and anxious to see how they'll deal with whichever one they do next (which by now looks to be MN).


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Posted : April 25, 2011 10:14 am
Liberty Hoffman
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the biggest reason I want SC next is because of Will Poulter getting older. if they wait, he'll be at least 23 before they even start filming SC!!!!!

if they do MN next, I will still follow, support, advertise, ect. for it the same as the others!!!!! but I'm just worried about Will getting older. that's all. it would be unthinkable to re-cast Eustace. it would be sad if he was old.

I say, futher up and further in! whatever they do, they will do!!!!! :D


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Posted : April 25, 2011 10:49 am
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I agree with Shastafan. At first I was a bit upset that they weren't doing it in order. But before long I found myself getting excited. MN is fresh material that has never before been adapted for the silver screen. Not to mention that MN is my second favorite book, next to LB. And I think it'll be better for them to let SC rest a bit, since it was very clear that they didn't understand the story (Apted especially. Kidnapped Narnians? Other than Rilian, there were no kidnapped Narnians. They were all creatures from Bism. Seriously!). Maybe if they had a little more time they would be get to know SC better and be able to do it justice once they get to it.

As for what we fans can do, the most we can do is cheer, pass rumors, grope, whine, complain, etc. Nothing we do or say is really going to affect the decisions of those at the top. I mean, we could do petitions and stuff like that, but, in the long run, everything is up to the people at Walden/Fox. So we can hope and pray that they will do things right, but that's about it.

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Posted : April 25, 2011 10:55 am
Lucy of Narnia
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*sighs* Believe me, I think MN will be really cool and I'm actually starting to get excited about it right now. I am just upset because I have been holding my breath over SC for so long. It was like 'ok, wait till VDT comes out'. Now I finally have a chance to see it in like 2 years, but there is about 99.99% certainty that MN is coming next. So I have to wait more like 4 or 5 years to see SC! *groans* And I understand that if they wait too long to do MN, Tilda Swinton will be too old to convincingly play the WW, who was supposed to be younger in MN than in LWW. I even agree that without Mrs. Swinton, the WW is lost. However, without Will Poulter I think SC is lost and he is growing up, too. I think it's easier to stretch a thirty-forty-something woman a few years than it is to stretch a 18-year-old young man who is growing up fast! And in my opinion, if they have to lose either MN or SC due to age issues, they should let MN go; it's a prequel, if it had to be dropped, I think it could be done easier than SC. Yes, if they don't do MN it would cause problems for making LB, but the same is true of SC. So I wish they'd just make SC first like most of the fans want instead of making MN. You think that would play into it some because the fans are the ones with the moola for the tickets and dvds, you know. You think Walden/Fox would listen to them. 8-| Ignore me, I'm just frustrated. ;))

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Topic starter Posted : April 25, 2011 11:09 am
Reepicheep775
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You know The Silver Chair is my favourite book and I'm pretty sure it has more potential to be a great movie than The Magician's Nephew, but at this point I'm feeling safer with the direction they're going.

As Gymfan pointed out on the podcast, the film-makers have expressed interest in doing The Magician's Nephew for a long time. It is a reassuring thought that there is a passion for this story, but I'm worried that the passion is brought on, not because the film-makers think The Magician's Nephew is a great story, but because they think it can make the most profit. Judging by the latest Michael Flaherty interview, I can unfortunately see this as the case.

However, another reason to be excited for this direction is the end of the Green Mist and any thoughts of Jillstace. And no I don't think there is any danger of Digolly (worst shipping name ever ;)) ). The only reason I was worried about Jillstace was because of Will Poulter's age and they will likely cast younger actors for Polly and Digory.

Posted : April 25, 2011 11:27 am
Lucy of Narnia
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So are you giving up on SC? I mean, won't Jillstace come unless they cast a new, younger Eustace and a young Jill? They aren't giving up Will, are they? :-s That's off-topic but if that's going to happen anyway I really don't care what happens with the series nearly as much...*sigh* At least they'll keep Tilda Swinton.

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Topic starter Posted : April 25, 2011 11:41 am
waggawerewolf27
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I'm not so sure that fans really want SC over MN. For one thing MN does not disrupt the series as much as it may appear, due to the fact that it is the first book, chronologically, and should have been done first in any case, before LWW.

For another thing, unlike MN, there is already a SC production in existence. For a long time, people, including fans, have also been commenting why Walden has been rehashing stuff the BBC has already done and not attempted the three books that BBC never made television productions of.

And for a third thing, the Narnia chronicles were never really a straightforward series. They started out with LWW, PC and VDT, which could reasonably be called the Pevensie trilogy. Listening to the VDT FotF audio drama, and reading Devin Brown's commentary on VDT, I got the distinct impression that C.S.Lewis intended to stop with VDT, but found other ideas later on.

The last written book, LB, is the only one that hasn't been changed around in the series, and so no matter what, I am sure it will be the last one. Meanwhile, SC, which started out being the fourth book, ended up the sixth book. Arguably SC could be the third book in the Caspian trilogy, but it could also be the second in the Eustace Trilogy. It is certainly a needed book, which rounds off Caspian's story, and without HHB and SC, in particular, it would not make any sense to do LB. And, like HHB and LB, from Walden's point of view, SC is another one where there can be no referrence to the White Witch, unlike MN.

For myself, I was a bit startled about MN being done instead of SC. But if MN does get completed successfully, then at least I will be able to watch 5 Narnia episodes on DVD, since I can always console myself with the BBC SC version until Walden SC gets made.

Posted : April 25, 2011 11:47 am
Shastafan
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One thing that seems to be the biggest reason why many people think SC should be done next is Will Poulter as Eustace. Besides one comment by Mark Johnson awhile ago mentioned the danger of Will growing up, we have no real proof that they'd ever do something like that. This is the same with Tilda, since she is no longer as young as she used to be.

But Tilda and Will P. are very loved by movie watchers, so why drop them now, even if they have gotten older? And after all, Caspian was supposed to be a 14 year old, but he was played by Ben, who was in his mid-twenties at the time. And Skandar grew a lot between LWW and PC, and yet they kept him as well. As far as I know, it wouldn't be hard for them to show a longer period between VDT and SC in needed be. So, I don't think it's a bad thing to fear for Will and Tilda (I slightly do too), but we can't assume anything (although spectulation is fun :p ) until more news about the issue comes out. :)

(Sorry, I know that was off topic, but I had to get it off my chest.)

Another question to add: If aging wasn't the problem (like with Will P. and Tilda), which one would you want next?


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Posted : April 25, 2011 12:01 pm
Liberty Hoffman
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if ageing wasn't the problem, I'd still want SC next. it's after VotDT, for starters, and it's my second favorite Narnia book :D
but MN is still good and will look great in movie form! :D :D


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Posted : April 25, 2011 12:07 pm
Lucy of Narnia
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If aging is not a problem I don't care if it is MN or SC next, except for a small regret that we don't get to see more Eustace right away, along with the fact that auditions for Jill would be later. So I really don't have a good reason. If there is hope for SC w/ Will P. later, then I can look forward to MN and someday maybe they'll do SC. :D

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Topic starter Posted : April 25, 2011 12:46 pm
waggawerewolf27
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If ageing isn't a problem, I would prefer MN to be filmed before SC. Let's get done with the White Witch. :D

Posted : April 25, 2011 12:50 pm
Lucy of Narnia
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Lol! Well, I used to be really excited at the prospect of seeing how the WW ended up where she did. Then they overused her, etc, etc...but if I ignore some things in previous movies and 'reset' my mind... we get to see how the WW started out! Yay!

Maybe I need to watch LWW to convince myself, and skip the others until whenever MN comes out... :p

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Topic starter Posted : April 25, 2011 1:07 pm
Dinode
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If there could only be 1 more Narnia movie, and I had to choose between MN and SC, I'd choose MN. I like the book better, and it's never been done before. ('Course, I haven't seen the BBC version, but other people have.)

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Posted : April 25, 2011 5:33 pm
stateofgreen
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the biggest reason I want SC next is because of Will Poulter getting older. if they wait, he'll be at least 23 before they even start filming SC!!!!!

if they do MN next, I will still follow, support, advertise, ect. for it the same as the others!!!!! but I'm just worried about Will getting older. that's all. it would be unthinkable to re-cast Eustace. it would be sad if he was old.

I say, futher up and further in! whatever they do, they will do!!!!! :D

This is the main reason I want SC next too. A lot of people are worried about his aging (getting that observation from visiting different forums). One crucial thing I wonder about is whether Walden/Fox think they can work the story around his aging if they make MN first and SC later. I really want to know if they are creative enough to work around the aging since they put that bit in at the end of VDT about Jill popping in for a visit where they seemed like they were setting up SC to be next. If they were creative they could keep straight to the SC book plot and have Eustace and Jill not be friends at all at the beginning and completely forget about the green mist and the fact she even visited him in VDT.


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Posted : April 25, 2011 7:55 pm
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