Ahaaah, now that makes a little more sense! I wish someone from the production could just come in and help us all out! They probably use our forum for a source of entertainment xD
So, what do we think? The producers are trying to redeem Caspian's image, by passing Rhindon onto Edmund, as he is 'The Next in Line', because Peter was his brother.
That may not be it, But I do like the sound of it.
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"I think I really must go and see Eustace. Seasickness is horrid, you know. If I had my old cordial with me I could cure him." -Lucy
"but you have," said Caspian." I'd quite forgotten about it. As you left it behind I thought it might be regarded as one of the royal treasures and so I brought it..." -Caspian
This really means to me that it was the only one of the royal treasures he brought with him. If he had the horn he would have used it, if he had Lucy's knife he would have given it to her, and yet on the cordial is mentioned.
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Well, i think we may have to agree to disagree. I think it clearly states that the cordial was considered one of the royal treasures and therefore belongs to the royal house, which is just him at the moment, so he brought 'it' with him. I don't think it is at all suggesting that they brought all of the royal treasures. I don't think that would make much sense at all, but i am willing to agree to disagree.
For me, even if this is a departure from the book, which i think it is, it doesn't really bother me that much. There will be worse departures then Caspian and Edmund carrying Peter's sword.
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Guys...I'm pretty confident that that sword is indeed Rhindon.
Look at the sheath. It looks very much alike.Though this doesn't really bother me at all...I mean, this is really what I want to say about this...
If they're trying to redeem Caspian's book-nature[the sweet, generous boy we all know and love] and pull it off as a "Caspian became more mature when he became king" type-thing, then when the Pevensies come on board, no doubt he'd feel inclined to give Edmund his brother's sword when he reunited Lucy with her cordial.
I mean, just think about it a little. In PC, Peter was more symbolically bestowing the right of kingship onto Caspian by giving him the sword. It was kind of a "I'm letting go of my kingship and my right to rule this land; it's not mine anymore" moment rather than a "oh, by the way, here's a gift for you - ADIOS!" moment. Caspian was never meant to really USE the sword. That's how I interpreted it, anyway.
But Edmund is BROTHER of the high king, so he'd logically be first in line to use the sword, if at all. But it probably shouldn't be used, just out of respect. But if it was used, Caspian would no-doubt feel inclined to give Edmund some sort of solid reassurance of his brother still in Narnia rather than give him some plain old sword they found lying around.
I dunno...mindless speculation. We need clearer pictures, that's what we need.
I totally agree with you, MonkeySaru. If Caspian didn't bring the "gifts", Caspian wouldn't just lend a random sword to Edmund. Do you think the Telmarines or now Narnians would just make a replica of Peter's sword? Rhindon seems special. I don't think they would just make a copy...well I hope it's Rhindon itself in the film. Looks like it.
Well i do think that this is Rhindon in the film. I am just saying that it is a departure from the book. It really doesn't bother me that much because for some reason i thought they would do that.
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hmmm.....
I have no idea what to think!!!!!
I really like the idea of Edmund having Peter's sword, but it's still a little odd because Father Christmas gave it to Peter as a gift and Edmund didn't get a gift from him 'cause he wasn't there.....
but then it apears that Caspian gave it to Edmund, so I think it's alright.....
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It's not that fighting with it is being irreverent. Aragorn was very referent towards Andúril in The Lord of the Rings even though he fought with it a great deal. Fighting with something does not make it irreverent.
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Queen Susan's horn wasn't on the ship:
... There Caspian winded his horn. (This was not the great magic horn of Narnia, Queen Susan's Horn: he had left that at home for his regent Trumpkin to use if any great need fell upon the land in the King's absence.)
It is interesting to not that it is first described as the magic horn of Narnia and then as Queen Susan's.
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I remembered this from the book, but couldn't think of where it was when i looked. I thought he left it with Trumpkin in case of an emergency.
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But still, it's mentioned as Queen Susan's horn. I might actually search through the books to see where/how Rhindon is mentioned.
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I do think that it would be perfectly fine to bring Rhindon on board as part of the royal treasury; using it is another matter. Though, as you pointed out Rilian, Aragorn used his ancestors sword and i didn't think much of it then and still don't now. I don't think AT ALL Caspian should use it and don't know what i think about ed using it... i'll just have to wait till 12/10/10
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