I think it would be a nice addition, as long as it's all in fun...I agree that I WOULD NOT like another "power play" sword fight...It's just too much theatrics...
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I think......they are showing us way too much!
I don't see how this is necessary to the plot line.
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And it would still bother me. Aragorn fights with the sword of his ancestors in The Lord of the Rings, and it's perfectly fine. Yet the story still has him showing reverence to the weapon. The issue here is that the purpose is skewed. Rhindon is the sword of the Peter, the high king. It's not the sword of all the Narnian kings. Plus it seems they sort of ripped this off The Lord of the Rings at this point.
I agree about the lack of awe, but I actually like Caspian having Rhindon. They brought Lucy's cordial with them on the voyage, and I don't see why they shouldn't bring the sword too. What's the point of having a magical sword if no one uses it? I think the fact that they bring the cordial shows that these gifts are to be used, not hung up to be looked up. And I think the sword can still be Peter's sword if other kings use it-- it's just kind of on loan. Of course, if it's on loan, it should be treated very respectfully-- I agree about that.
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All this talk about respect for Peter's sword would be relevant if the previous moviea were adapted more closely to the books, but think of the Peter that Prince Caspian the movie depicted.
Why would someone have awe for his sword? Other than the fact that the sword is a gift from Father Christmas (and don't all good Narnians receive those?) there is nothing that great about it. Its owner was heroic and all that but not so 'magnificent'.
Gosh, if you look at the films, there's much more reason to respect Ed's sword. It broke the Witch's wand after all.
I have no idea why Caspian has Rhindon in one scene and Edmund is holding it in another.
Maybe it's one of those action scenes where people hand weapons to each other and switch 'em all around? That's the only explanation I can think of right now.
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ouch. good point. Maybe it's the filmmakers who need to have more respect for Peter's character!
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I wonder, how does Aragorn still show respect for his sword in a way that Caspian doesn't? Aragorn still uses his sword; the rallying cry in Helm's Deep of the sword that was broken returning to battle comes to my mind. Perhaps Rilian means that Caspian shouldn't be using it in a playful spar, if that is indeed what this scene is all about. What is wrong with Caspian using Peter's sword, since Peter gave it to him? After the single combat, Peter hands Caspian Rhindon to finish off Miraz. Mightn't Peter have been insulted if Caspian handed it back to him and said, "No, I can't use your sword"? Also, did Peter give Rhindon to Caspian to keep or did he merely borrow it to him? If he gave him the sword to keep, then it is Caspian's right to use it whenever he wishes!
Now, to add something in contrast to what I just said: I really do like Lucy P.'s post. Is it the sword we admire, or that which it defends? (I think that's a LOTR quote? )
It sounds like an LOTR quote to me.
You know, I thought of another reason for Ed having Rhindon. Maybe Ben wanted a coffee break and gave the sword to Skandar to hold.
We really just have no idea right now about anything. Maybe the trailer will bring some clarification.
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Lucy P.: um, I don't think Ben just gave Skandar Rhindon to hold because of a coffee break. in one of the pictures from the production, Edmund has Rhindon on his belt. so I am assuming that Skandar is going to use Peter's sword during the movie.....
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One thought I had that randomly popped into my head awhile ago:
In the book, it is stated that Caspian gives Eustace his second-best sword. What is the significance of this? It means that Caspian had at least two swords. He gives Eustace his second-best one, probably the one he already had, and now uses his best sword instead, which would be Rhindon in the movie. This explains why he is using Rhindon in a spar rather than his own sword. Does that make sense, or should I ignore random thoughts in the future?
daughter of the king: that is a very good point! one I have thought about myself, actually! having Peter's sword as Caspian's best sword.....and Eustace could break his old sword from PC!
this still doesn't explain why Edmund apears to have Rhindon too.....
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What is wrong with Caspian using Peter's sword, since Peter gave it to him? After the single combat, Peter hands Caspian Rhindon to finish off Miraz.
Actually, Caspian uses Miraz's sword to "finish off" Miraz. When Miraz gets back up to attack, Peter twists the sword around to Miraz, injuring him. He then(after a few words w/ Miraz) hands Miraz's sword to Caspian.(see picture below)
I do agree that since Peter gives the sword Rhindon to Caspian that Caspian can use it. Although, I do believe it should be treated with respect and dignitiy, not to be used commonly; like in friendly spurs.
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Sorry. My mistake. Thanks for the picture! I think what I was trying to say came across, though. Wouldn't Peter be insulted if Caspian said he wouldn't use Rhindon (when he gives it to him at the end)?
I wonder when this is going to take place in the movie. I really can't wait.
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Now, to add something in contrast to what I just said: I really do like Lucy P.'s post. Is it the sword we admire, or that which it defends? (I think that's a LOTR quote? )
Indeed
I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor;
Faramir in The Window on the West, LotR
So perhaps it would be a waste of a good sword not to use it to defend anything, but to put it in a museum?
And if Caspian is using Rhindon, especially if it is his best sword, he would need to practise with it sometimes as well - as in a friendly fight with Edmund to test his current skills.
Aragorn didn't keep his ancestor's sword in a museum, he even carried it - and eventually he had it remade and started using it in earnest.
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Honestly, what is everyone expecting Caspian to do, put Rhindon on a nice altar and have High King Peter worship services every Sunday?