There is a video of the scene on YouTube by the way:

great find there Icarus! how do you manage to find these things?

that vid definitely confirms thats its just some spirited sparring between Edmund and Caspian. and those are some moves on Edmund isnt it? looks like its gonna be a lot faster and more complex than what we saw between Edmund and Trumpkin. now this is one sword fight i'm looking forward to seeing in the movie for sure!

Ugh, I just noticed that Caspian appears to be using Rhindon. That is incredibly annoying. The filmmakers just don't seem to understand the concept of "reverence." I really really don't think Caspian would actually use Peter's sword. He would treasure it. He would either lock it away somewhere, or proudly display it.

It'd be like if you somehow obtained the actual declaration of independence, and decided to use it to write a letter on.

In the PC movie, you rarely got a sense of Caspian's reverence and awe of the Pevensies. Looks like we're seeing that again in VDT. More and more, I'm getting the feeling that the filmmakers just don't "get it." Most discouraging.

Interesting that Edmund seems to be using a Telmarine sword (possibly Caspian's old sword....or "second best sword"?). Should there be more of a LWW-Narnia or a PC-Telmarine influence in the design? I suppose Caspian wouldn't just throw away all the Telmarine stuff realistically speaking, but I don't think that's relevent. The goal is to communicate visually what has happened to the culture. So... I suppose it is appropriate that there be a kind of Telmarine/Narnia mix in the design. A whole new culture has been brought into Narnia.

... a brief scene as a precursor to Eustace being challenged by Reepicheep?

I had the same thought. I wonder if there will be some connection there.

I don't think that i like the idea of Caspian beating Edmund. We can't see the end of the duel so we don't know for certain. The cheering might suggest Caspian wins, but they might cheer for Edmund as well.

I just think Edmund became really good with a sword and would beat Caspian in a duel. I always wondered what would have happened if they had gone at it on Deathwater Island. Though in the book Caspian was a lot younger and Edmund had been using a sword a lot longer.

Ugh, I just noticed that Caspian appears to be using Rhindon. That is incredibly annoying. The filmmakers just don't seem to understand the concept of "reverence." I really really don't think Caspian would actually use Peter's sword. He would treasure it. He would either lock it away somewhere, or proudly display it.

It'd be like if you somehow obtained the actual declaration of independence, and decided to use it to write a letter on.

In the PC movie, you rarely got a sense of Caspian's reverence and awe of the Pevensies. Looks like we're seeing that again in VDT. More and more, I'm getting the feeling that the filmmakers just don't "get it." Most discouraging.

Interesting that Edmund seems to be using a Telmarine sword (possibly Caspian's old sword....or "second best sword"?). Should there be more of a LWW-Narnia or a PC-Telmarine influence in the design? I suppose Caspian wouldn't just throw away all the Telmarine stuff realistically speaking, but I don't think that's relevent. The goal is to communicate visually what has happened to the culture. So... I suppose it is appropriate that there be a kind of Telmarine/Narnia mix in the design. A whole new culture has been brought into Narnia.

regarding Rhindon, sword of the High King Peter, i see it this way: it is used as a standard of the current ruling King, in this case Caspian. the sword was directly passed from Peter to Caspian, thereby Caspian having the right to bear it (as opposed to say, having Edmund have it during the duration of his stay, even if technically, Edmund is of nobler standing than Caspian).

since that sword has tasted battle many times, Caspian will keep using it the way the previous King used it. its obviously not gonna rust, if it can stand 1000 years and still stay sharp and battle worthy, whats 3 years? or a lifetime?

i understand the reverence that should be given, but in a way the true Narnian monarchy is relatively very young (young because it had to be restarted again after Telmarine rule), so you can take it as Caspian continuing Peter’s work to reinvigorate the kingdom, which is what he’s doing by traveling to the different isles. the symbol of the Lion should figure somewhere on the flags/armor of the new "unified Narnia", which is something i hope we get to see later on in the production. however there has to be something a lot more significant than a banner when signifying the reigning monarch. since it doesnt look like Caspian is the crown wearing type (which would even make less sense in the rough and tumble seas) he bears the sword of the High King.

as for Edmund using a Telmarine-type sword (at least during the sparring) we dont know where his sword is or if Caspian even bothered to bring it along. truthfully there is no reason for Caspian to bring King Edmund's sword since he didnt know he'd be meeting them during the voyage. however for a king who is anticipating some combat in his quests it would make sense to bring Queen Lucy's cordial with its miraculous healing properties. (i know what he says in the book he brought it as signifying Narnia's treasures , but movie/realistic wise, that makes the most sense).

Jadisstarkiller, you have a very good point. Caspian needs a symbol of his kingship, particularly in uncharted territories, and the sword is certainly more practical. Plus, it connects this movie with the end of the previous one. Of course it would never happen in the book, but I've made my peace with the fact that movie!Caspian isn't book!Caspian and thus will not act the same way.

That said, I do hope that Edmund wins the duel, or that it's a "tie" between the two. Of course, even if Edmund loses, I would probably put it down to him not wanting to show up the King in front of his men, which would be a political move I could see Edmund making...

At first I thought it was in the movie, but then I realized no way, and I was right. I think its just some friendly fighting humor...Edmond looks so mature, he is all grown up!!

... I do hope that Edmund wins the duel, or that it's a "tie" between the two. Of course, even if Edmund loses, I would probably put it down to him not wanting to show up the King in front of his men ...

As we kick the ideas around ...

I recall plot devices (if that is the right choice of words) that have one character learning a trick or two from another character during a sparring event, be it a sword fight or hand-to-hand combat. It then comes into play later during the movie. I am speculating these events are early in the voyage, as the Dawn Treader has yet to be "damaged" during it's journey.

I have to say that Skandar has become the best sword fighter that I have seen on film in some time. From what I have seen, he has mastered proper positions and can perform his moves to a degree rarely seen on film, especially by a child actor. I'd love to get a chance to work with him.

This fight likely will be somewhat reminiscient of the Peter/Caspian fight in which it is really short but ends in somewhat of a draw. But this time it appears to be a friendly fight and I could picture both coming to a mutual draw conclusion. I'm really looking forward to seeing this scene in the movie.

Just for kicks, I went back and timed some of the previous impromptu duels along with the new one from VdT. I counted from when the sword-fighting actually started until it stopped; although with the VdT one I had to stop when the cheering seemed to indicate so as I could not actually see the two fighting.

PC: Edmund and Trumpkin: 21 seconds
PC: Peter and Caspian: 17 seconds

VdT: Edmund and Caspian: Around 25-30 seconds. The former is probably more accurate, though.

theres a new vid from Ben Barnes where he spoke about that sparring with Skandar. apparently Skandar got a little carried away and Ben got the bruise to prove it
(he mentions it at the start of the interview, for those who doesnt want to watch the whole thing since its mostly about Ben's other movie thats come out this week)

edit: i uploaded the complete HD quality version, the previous one skipped for a few seconds halfway through the interview

PC: Edmund and Trumpkin: 21 seconds
PC: Peter and Caspian: 17 seconds

VdT: Edmund and Caspian: Around 25-30 seconds. The former is probably more accurate, though.

Collective loss of breath and near panic on the set after Mr Barnes got popped in the lip with a sword by young Mr Keynes? 10 seconds. Thank you for prop swords.