I think the glowing in general was too much. With everyone else glowing and swords glowing you wondered why Eustace didn't glow as a dragon.

I liked that there was a visual thing that was seen when the swords were 'activated'. it made it more epic, and it looked cool! I didn't think of Frodo at all, not just because I didn't want to, but because I saw this as it's own story. it wasn't Star Wars or LOTR - to me it was just Narnia and Narnia can have it's own blue glow too!
just my two cents

I agree. I have no problem with the swords liting up or being blue.
I dont' think that this meant that the color of Narnia or Aslan will be blue or blue for the rest of the movies. I am perfectly fine with it.

I think there were much bigger problems with the movie, so Pick your battles. lol.

smartypie, that's incredibly well thought out. I hesitate to question it at all just from the depth of effort and thought that went into it. I will say your analysis goes much deeper into understanding numbers than anything I have ever attempted. I am very gratified to get this level of analysis on my thread.

I would argue that the overlaying of 6 and 9 on a digital clock is a stretch but the rest of the anaylsis is pretty strong in my opinion. My other issue is not with the analysis itself but with one of the conclusions. I had already noted a secular humanistic stench rising from the blue glow and it came out even more in your analysis. If the blue glow leads anyone to conclude that Eustace = Aslan, then I have even more reason to dislike the blue glow. That goes beyond anything to do with it being too reminiscent of Star Wars and lies at the heart of why the blue glow is a problem.

I have some questions for smartypie or anyone else who cares to throw in their "two cents" in as Liberty Hoffman says.

Is Eustace really a good Aslanic symbol? What about him being a dragon (a symbol of evil) through most of their journey? How would you interpret dragonned Eustace getting wounded by the 7th sword right before his undragonning?

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Very in-depth, smartypie, but I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, that is a coincidence.

There are plenty of thought-provoking coincidences, for example, the many occurrences of the number 11 in numerical-related facts about 9/11, and the coincidences between Lincoln and Kennedy (if you haven't seen those, you can Google them if you wish to see them). But they all appear to be cherry-picked facts that someone happened to discover were interestingly similar. The vast majority of facts about Lincoln and Kennedy or 9/11 and the number 11 don't match at all.

999 is the last of the 3 digit numbers which hints at finality. 9+9+9 = 27, 2+7 = 9 Therefore, 999 resolves to 9. 9 is the only digit that does that (0 doesn't count ).

This has nothing to do with everything else. It's a cool number trick, though. Having knowledge of these must be one of the many advantages of being a high school math teacher.

On a digital clock, if you overlay 666 with 999 (IOW, confront/attack/cover), you get 888.

No digital clocks are anywhere to be seen in Narnia, or the England of the time, since they wouldn't be invented for years to come. Also, if I overlay 666 and 777, I get 999 as well. Along with 222 and 555, 333 and 666, 999 and 222, etc.

888 is the NV of Aslan's other name in the original tongue of his "magic" book in our world. Iesous (ee - ay - sooce).

That would be the name of Jesus in Greek, the language that the earliest known copies of the gospels are written in. But the name for Jesus in Hebrew, the language in which the original prophecies were written about him, is Yeshua, something completely different.

If you take off the last s in Iesous, you get Iesou (ee - ay - soo) = 688, also written that way in his "magic" book.

If this really wasn't a coincidence, this path of connections would have taken immense planning and research into something 99.99% of people would never notice.

Lilliandil + Ramandu = 688 in the normal value mode.

Ramandu doesn't even appear in the movie, though. Lilliandil + Caspian would make much more sense.

Eustace = 688 in the combined or exalted mode.

Eustace = Lilliandil + Ramandu is a bit of a stretch there, since the pairing isn't very crisp. If it was something like Edmund + Rhindon = Aslan, I might raise an eyebrow.

But, these are all coincidences, aren't they?

I believe that they are.

More to come that will knock your socks off and leave you stunned and shaking in your boots.

I'm trembling in fear.

I would argue that the overlaying of 6 and 9 on a digital clock is a stretch but the rest of the anaylsis is pretty strong in my opinion.

Ok, forget the digital clock. Cursive handwriting would still give you 8, albeit, enclosed in a capsule. Think 2 peas in a pod.

I had already noted a secular humanistic stench rising from the blue glow and it came out even more in your analysis. If the blue glow leads anyone to conclude that Eustace = Aslan, then I have even more reason to dislike the blue glow.

My bad. Not congruent, but similar. Just as we are to be like Him.

Is Eustace really a good Aslanic symbol?

In the sense that he was willing to lay down his life, yes. Again, it is not Eustace = Aslan, rather, Eustace is now a child of the king. Lionhearted if you please.

What about him being a dragon (a symbol of evil) through most of their journey?

Did Lewis mean for a dragon to be a symbol for evil? If so, what about the ship's figurehead? Maybe someone can do a poll on that. I haven't given it enough thought to come to a conclusion but am curious to what others think.

How would you interpret dragonned Eustace getting wounded by the 7th sword right before his undragonning?

Friendly fire. J/K I've got my ideas, but I might get banished to another forum.

Back to the color blue. Totally logical. Sky is blue from sunlight being scattered at different rates in the atmosphere. Water is blue from reflecting the sky (i.e., the heavens). Water plays a central role in VDT.

Very in-depth, smartypie, but I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, that is a coincidence.

Those were small potatoes compared to what's coming next.

This has nothing to do with everything else. It's a cool number trick, though. Having knowledge of these must be one of the many advantages of being a high school math teacher.

You caught me. I was just having fun.

Also, if I overlay 666 and 777, I get 999 as well. Along with 222 and 555, 333 and 666, 999 and 222, etc.

But only 666 and 999 have perfect 180 (the 1st number value ) rotational symmetry. I.e., true opposites as in night and day. And again, 999 is the mightiest 3 digit (think 3 dimensions) number.

But the name for Jesus in Hebrew, the language in which the original prophecies were written about him, is Yeshua, something completely different.

But the universal language of his earthly life was Greek. Besides, 888 is toll-free, just like him.

If you take off the last s in Iesous, you get Iesou (ee - ay - soo) = 688, also written that way in his "magic" book.

If this really wasn't a coincidence, this path of connections would have taken immense planning and research into something 99.99% of people would never notice.

The study of gematria is one of my hobbies. You must realize that when the Greeks, Hebrews, Romans, etc, wrote their letters, they would also naturally see "numbers". We just aren't used to it.

Ramandu doesn't even appear in the movie, though.

It was his island, wasn't it?

Lilliandil + Caspian would make much more sense.

They weren't married yet.

Eustace = Lilliandil + Ramandu is a bit of a stretch there, since the pairing isn't very crisp. If it was something like Edmund + Rhindon = Aslan, I might raise an eyebrow.

The power flow went like this: 7th sword embedded (marks of the accuser,) in Eustace, Aslan transforms Eustace (removes and heals wounds) and sets him on Ramandu' s island (sets him in heavenly places), Eustace lays sword on table (final witness that rebukes the accuser), power shoots up to the heavens (we have ignition and liftoff ), Lilliandil now has lawful right to energize Rhindon.

But, these are all coincidences, aren't they?

I believe that they are.

I still have the ace up my sleeve. It's coming, be patient.

I'm trembling in fear.

N0, no! Not fear! Excitement, dancing, thrillsville.

I did it again. Sorry for the double post. Yaaay, I fixed it. I'm still a doofus