I have been thinking about the scenes in VDT where the swords become blue. Is this helpful towards understanding the themes from the movie or is it a distraction?
On the one hand: It is not without precedence, colors are used in the text (for example, The White Witch.)
On the other hand: Its a new thing in this film franchise to assign a color to the heroes' side. (*edit ChristProclamer has pointed out that gold and red were Narnian colors from LWW and PC) My own opinion is that I would have rather done without the blue glow. I would prefer Aslan to remain beyond an assigning of "blue". Its a part of him not being a tame lion. Giving the followers of Aslan a color just seemed to box them in too much. I'm curious if other people felt the same way or if it meant something different. Any opinion is welcome: just try to back it up with examples from the book or movie.
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"Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." -C.S. Lewis
Well, from a filmmaking perspective, I suppose they wanted to show in a visually vivid way that the swords were being "activated". Using a colored glow was a way of doing this, albeit not the most creative or original way. The biggest problem with it is that is that Rhindon ends up looking like a lightsaber, or, worse, Sting. And honestly, Edmund already seems too much like Frodo in that scene ("Throw the ring into the fire"/"don't give into temptation!" idea).
A big, big problem I have with this is that the blue doesn't represent Aslan, does it? Doesn't it represent the "blue star"/Lilliandil? She was their "guide". Didn't both Coriakin and Lilliandil herself say that? I'm guessing she was somehow tied to the power of the swords or something. Even if I'm wrong about that, giving both Lilliandil and the swords a blue glow gave the impression they were connected.
I think if they had wanted to show the swords being connected with Aslan by a colored glow, they should have used gold or blinding white.
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Narnian Heart, the resemblance to lightsabers had occured to me. I kept expecting Yoda to pop up in those scenes and dole out sage advice. The Edmund/Frodo connection is new to me though. Wow. *thinks more* Ugh.
You could be right that the blue is supposed to be connected with Lilliandil not Aslan. I'm not sure how I feel about that. There are so many ways to read it.
"Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." -C.S. Lewis
Also, the star wasn't really blue...it was white with a bluish glow.
Trying to follow a completely blue star in the daytime when the whole sky is blue too would be kind of hard.
I liked that there was a visual thing that was seen when the swords were 'activated'. it made it more epic, and it looked cool! I didn't think of Frodo at all, not just because I didn't want to, but because I saw this as it's own story. it wasn't Star Wars or LOTR - to me it was just Narnia and Narnia can have it's own blue glow too!
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Liberty Hoffman, your two cents is welcome I posted this because I was curious about what people got from it.
I have a new thought. If Lilliandil is connected with the blue glow (and protecting Narnia from evil) that may help set up the premise for SC. In the text, the snake's invasion begins with Lilliandil's poisoning.
"Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." -C.S. Lewis
If any color would be assigned to Aslan, it would be red.
I do not mind the blue glow of the swords, though.
Aravis Narnia, Interesting, why red?
Other questions for everyone to consider: Did the blue glow work as a visual adaptation from the text? Did it work in the film standing alone? Did it bring to mind other films? Would another color have worked better, or should they have not had any color? If another color, why?
"Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." -C.S. Lewis
If any color would be assigned to Aslan, I think it would be a bright golden color...
Well, red and gold are the Narnian colors, in the films at least.
I'm thinking along the lines of Conina at the moment; the blue glow of RD and of the swords tie together in some sort of deeper meaning that will pop up in SC and hopefully explain all the odd plot holes of VDT.
If that's not the filmmaker's plan, then I would think that they were just trying to show how the lighting of Sting...er, Rhindon signified the completion of the seven-swords thing, a process guided by RD. Basically I think that all the blue glows are supposed to signify the same thing...because otherwise so much blue for so many different purposes would be confusing. Surely the filmmakers weren't that sloppy...were they?
Despite the fact that blue is my favorite colour, I was not a fan of "the glow." It looked chessy and clichéd, imo. I just felt like it was too over the top.
If Aslan had to be assigned a colour it sure wouldn't be blue, that's all I know!
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I saw this film again yesterday. I've seen the film four times now. The thing is is that when Lilliandil first desends from the sky lucy is looking at the swords on Aslan's table and you see that blue light from Lilliandil. So i think Lilliandil plays a big part in the blue light coming from the swords. I think Lilliandil is the light theme in this film.
If the green mist does play a part as the LOGK then it would make a good excuse for her like in the book Silver Chair to kill her off first before trying to seduce Rilian with her next plan. It's actually making sense to me now with where the crew is trying to take these changes.
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Good point about the red and gold as Narnian colors. Duly noted . It was a bit subtler and I think more true to the books.
"Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning." -C.S. Lewis
I thought the blue glow occurred after the seven swords were united and it kind of made the swords more powerful. It took one good stab with the glowing sword to kill the serpent. As it drifted to the depths of the sea, it was kind of getting shocks, which i assumed were still due to the sword.
If this was the case, then I like the fact that the glowing blue gave the impression that the swords were suddenly more powerful, and that this gave it/them the edge to defeat the serpent, (and defeat Dark Island).
"I'm a beast I am, and a Badger what's more. We don't change. We hold on. I say great good will come of it... And we beasts remember, even if Dwarfs forget, that Narnia was never right except when a son of Adam was King." -Trufflehunter
Internal evidence for the color blue:
Positonal value of the letters (PV)
Normal value of the letters (NV)
Combined value of the letters (CV)
PV NV
B - 2 2
L - 12 30
U - 21 300
E - 5 5
S - 19 100
T - 20 200
A - 1 1
R - 18 90
R - 18 90
H - 8 8
I - 9 9
N - 14 50
D - 4 4
O - 15 60
N - 14 50
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180 999 Totals
To turn in the opposite direction is to do a 180. Sword sheathed = points down (depth/ foe defeated). Sword exalted = points up, Edmund's kill positon. 999 is in the opposite direction of 666. (I don't believe I need to explain that ) 999 is the last of the 3 digit numbers which hints at finality. 9+9+9 = 27, 2+7 = 9 Therefore, 999 resolves to 9. 9 is the only digit that does that (0 doesn't count ). On a digital clock, if you overlay 666 with 999 (IOW, confront/attack/cover), you get 888.
888 is the NV of Aslan's other name in the original tongue of his "magic" book in our world. Iesous (ee - ay - sooce).
If you take off the last s in Iesous, you get Iesou (ee - ay - soo) = 688, also written that way in his "magic" book.
Lilliandil + Ramandu = 688 in the normal value mode.
Eustace = 688 in the combined or exalted mode.
But, these are all coincidences, aren't they?
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