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Glumpuddle
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List your three best and three worst moments in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.


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Topic starter Posted : August 21, 2011 5:21 am
decarus
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Favorite moments for LWW.

1) When Lucy enters Narnia for the first time and meets Tumnus by the lamppost.

2) When Peter, Susan, and Lucy first meet Aslan at the Narnian's camp.

3) The coronation and the scene after with Lucy and Tumnus. "After all he isn't a tame Lion."

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Posted : August 21, 2011 8:58 am
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Everything in LWW was the best and still is to me, I can't find any faults in it. Sure a few things were different than the book, however the characters stayed very true and the story became very theatrical and enjoyable. I love everything about the film. It's my favorite and will always remain in my top 5 most favorite films of all time.


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Posted : August 21, 2011 9:30 am
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Best:
1. Lucy stepping into Narnia and meeting Tumnus: The dead blue-bottle! The mothballs! The coats! She leaves the door open! The lamp-post! The red scarf! Spare Oom! Geek-out after geek-out moment. Georgie and James are great.
2. Edmund walking through the courtyard of statues: For me, this scene was one of the reasons to make LWW into a movie. Very well executed. It was just as eerie as I hoped it would be. And the Maugrim scare was perfect.
3. Arriving at Aslan's camp and meeting Aslan: I love the way this entire sequence was shot. It captures the irony of the kids walking into a magical world...and finding that the creatures there find them unusual and amazing! And I love the pan that shows the three Pevensies' reactions to Aslan.

Worst:
1. The instant thaw: Winter to Spring in one cut. As both an adaptation and a stand-alone film, this was just bad. One of the lowest moments for fans of CS Lewis. The scene in the book had so much potential to be told visually.
2. Father Christmas saying the Pevensies are responsible for the thaw: The movie was already doing a poor job at creating a sense of anticipation for Aslan. This almost put the nail in the coffin for Aslan as an important character.
3. Dinner at the Beavers: A quiet and mysterious scene in the book was translated into the Beaver comedy hour. This is the scene that really gets the plot and tension going...and it's mostly played for laughs.


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Topic starter Posted : August 21, 2011 10:28 am
De_De
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Worst
To tell you the truth, there is nothing I don't like in LWW. It is the ultimate Narnia movie in my opinion.

Best
1. I have to agree with everyone here with Lucy finding the wardrobe and entering into Narnia. I don't know how Adams did it, but he just captured the awe and wonder of finding a new world. I was just watching it yesterday and it was like I was watching it for the first time! I was so caught up in the emotion...it was wonderful.
2. Another scene that captured my heart was Aslan's resurrection. When the sun rises and Aslan appears with the sun behind him, it takes my breath away!
3. And I just love the transition from Narnia back into our world. The scene starts off in this wonderful fairytail-like setting, with very rich colors. And then they walk though the wardrobe and fall into this dull, almost grey room. And it just shows the contrast between this world and Narnia. Hmmmm am I making any sense? I hope so. :)


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Posted : August 21, 2011 11:19 pm
decarus
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I didn't name the worst for LWW because i like it and it is the best of the three for me without a doubt.

I did dislike Father Christmas stating that the children were causing the thaw instead of Aslan. But lack of Aslan's divinity is a series wide problem.

That is really it. There were things that i thought could have been better like the boys Narnian costumes or the sets and really Edmund could have been better, but those things are all good enough. I really like LWW. Best of the three without a doubt.

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Posted : August 22, 2011 7:39 am
wolfloversk
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Worst:

Ummm...

1) When Edmund tells Peter "Shut Up! You think you're Dad, but your not"
2) Peter and Susan's argument when they're looking for Edmund
3) Well I find it kind of odd that Lucy and Susan seem to hear the WW's words to Aslan during the sacrifice scene, even though she's whispering them- otherwise great scene

Best:

Oh boy.... It's hard to pick only three :P

1) Ok I'll be the first to admit it. I loved the river scene (despite Peter and Susan's slight character flaws)
2) Introduction to Aslan- very powerful
3) Besides the above- the entire sacrifice scene

(Sorry but I had to...)

4) the after credits scene :D
5) The Wardrobe- particularly Lu's second entry

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Posted : August 22, 2011 8:07 am
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Best:
1. The entire Lucy finds/enters wardrobe/meets Mr. Tumnus/has tea sequence. It's not quite as mysterious as in the book, but it's still very, very good.

2. Lucy and Tumnus on the balcony after the coronation. It was such a great character moment for both Lucy and Tumnus. Of course Lucy would be the one to notice that Aslan had left and go to find him. And of course Tumnus would notice her leaving the party. And the line about Aslan not being a tame lion actually had some meaning behind it (unlike the line in VDT...).

3. The leaving Narnia scene. I really liked the older Pevensies. And it was a good transition.

Worst:

1. Aslan's death. I didn't care. At all. I should have been sobbing my eyes out the first time I saw it and I had no emotional reaction whatsoever. There was very little time or reason to get attached to Aslan's character because everything was about the Pevensies.

2. The Edmund and Tumnus in the dungeon scene. I know it was supposed to be all emotional and "Oh no! Poor Mr. Tumnus!" but I just couldn't help thinking through the entire scene "Why in the world did the White Witch keep him alive?" He should already be turned to stone! He's no more use to her!" Kind of ruined it. :p

3. The melting river. I'm just not a big fan of dramatic tension for the sake of dramatic tension. Seeing the kids fighting with each other all the time is supposed to make me like them more?

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Posted : August 22, 2011 1:59 pm
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Best:

Lucy finding Narnia :D

the whole rest of the movie :D :D

I don't have anything I thought was worst...


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Posted : August 28, 2011 4:02 am
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Best:
1. When Lucy finds Narnia and meets Mr. Tumnus. It seemed very simple, and that made it seem even more magical.
2. Aslan's death and resurrection. Even though it's just a movie, I still find myself tearing up thinking about the sacrifice he made. And that just makes it even more powerful when he comes back to life.
3. The beginning of the battle. I really like the dialogue with Peter and Orius, when he says, "Numbers do not win a battle." "No, but I bet they help." And then there's "Are you with me?" "To the death." It just shows how firmly the Narnians believe in and need the Pevensies to free them from the White Witch, especially since they had only known each other for a few days. When they charge and there is no noise, just music, it seems powerful again. I like how the sound starts again when the cats start fighting.

Worst:
1. The waterfall scene wasn't terrible, but if they really needed help to fight the wolves Susan would logically blow her horn. It was a good scene, but didn't contribute much to the plot. And all I can think about it how bad it would be to walk through snow with wet clothes.
2. I can't think of anything else that I don't like specifically.

Posted : August 28, 2011 12:30 pm
Narnian_Archer
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First off I want to say that LWW is my favorite book and movie, and I love it for all it's worth. I do have things I do and don't like, but in general I love the movie and think it's the best so far.

Best scene -
By far it is Lucy coming into Narnia. I think it would be really cool if she had come in at night like in the book, but this way it's fine too. It also allows for a change in the night sky to let the audience know that a good deal of time has past, and also gives a contrast to how everything is all white and light when she first enters Narnia because it seems to be going great and then the dark, chilly feeling of night when she is running away with Mr. Tumnus gives a feeling of trepidation and anxiety. Basically, the whole part with Lucy's first entrance into Narnia is the best highlight of the movie.

The second best scene, I think, is the grown-up Pevensies returning to Narnia. That scene just hit the nail on the head somehow. That felt like magical Narnia. They felt like real Kings and Queens. I think that it the only time I was satisfied looking at Narnian royalty, and the only time I think the real magic of Narnia was captured.
Worst -
There are two in my opinion
1) Edmund meeting the White Witch. That part lacked the authority, majesty, and power. It was just missing something. Everything, including the acting, lines, and scenery was just too dry. When we see the White Witch, we somehow don't see this awesome majesty that strikes fear into us. When she talks, we aren't feeling shivers down our spine as we do when someone like, say, Galadriel from the LOR speaks. There needed to be much more power, snow flying as the Witch rode past, more authority and power in her voice, more moving passion in the lines...I don't know...it just needed more.
2) Aslan being put to death by the White Witch. Again, I think this is mostly the fault of the White Witch's performance. While I understand that this is a PG rated movie, I still think she needed more power and majesty. She just doesn't feel like a proud, evil, magic queen. When she screams "The Great Cat is DEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAD!!!!" there needed to be different effects. Like this it sounds like a weak, high pitched shriek. There needs to be much more power in her voice - it needs to shake the earth somehow. Maybe it should have been warped, maybe just deeper, maybe there needed to be thunder and lightning as she shouted, I don't know, but something had to be done.


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Posted : September 2, 2011 10:39 pm
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Since I banned myself of the words "best" and "better", I'm going to clarify scenes by personal favorites vs. scenes that are lacking.

Favorites:

1. Lucy entering Narnia for the first time. If this scene doesn't scream Narnia, I don't know what does. If we can pardon the cliche or pun, there's just something so "magical" about when Lucy turns around and walks out into Narnia for the first time.

2. Peter, Susan, Lucy, and the Beavers arrival at Aslan's camp. glumPuddle has already summed up this scene fairly well, so I'll try to elaborate. I really like the sense of quiet as the Pevensies approach Aslan's tent- the music has stopped and we only hear certain sounds of creatures within the camp. There's always been a certain sense or feeling that I have found when viewing this scene that says "this is Narnia". There's something so awe-inspiring by it (it's simple, but you remember it). I still tend to get goosebumps when Aslan slowly steps out of the tent for the first time and the music plays. And, as glumPuddle has already said, I really enjoy seeing the reactions upon each of the Pevensie's faces as they see Aslan for the first time (it's a nice mirror or book-end effect to the pan we see earlier for their reactions on hearing Aslan's name for the first time).

3. The bombing of London. I really like the fact that we are thrown into the film right from the start, that we are introduced to the main characters in a frantic way.

Lacking Scenes:

1. Susan and Lucy's time spent with Aslan. I understand that we need to keep up with the urgency of the battle, but we sure don't see a whole lot in the liberation of statues. I don't believe all the dialogue that's in the book is necessary in this scene, but it would have been nice to have seen a bit more. I also understand the constraints of giving more screen time to Aslan, but I would have also liked to have seen more time with Susan and Lucy walking with Aslan to the Stone Table. Susan and Lucy meet up with Aslan, they walk for a shot, a big tree blocks our view to transition into the next shot, and then Aslan bids farewell. Is more time needed for emotional impact? No, but the visuals are amazing and it would have nice to have seen just a bit more.

2. Peter, Susan, and Lucy trailing after Edmund when he goes to the Witch's castle. This seems like too much of a run around. The Beavers tell the Pevensies where Edmund was headed, they chase after him, Mr. Beaver tells them that their lives are at stake, they run back to get Mrs. Beaver, the wolves arrive, the group runs for the lives. I can understand the Pevensies concerns for their missing brother, but how do they know the way to the Witch's castle, is it really that close to Beaver's Dam? Okay, so the Beavers told them where the castle was... but the Beavers know the threat that the White Witch is to the Pevensies, so why would Mr. Beaver lead them to the danger? Maybe I'm missing something, but upon a recent viewing of the film, this scene gave me a plain run around.

3. Older Pevensies chasing after the white stag. This is a well done scene, I do like it a whole lot, but my trouble is the time. I feel like we are thrown into the scene without much reasoning of what the Pevensies are after. Susan mentions the stag and we see it briefly dart through the woods, but I wish there was a tad bit more to see. I get it, it's the end of the film and there's a budget, but I feel slightly rushed through it.


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Posted : September 15, 2011 5:58 pm
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I really hate Maugrim having an American accent. It sounds so out of place. :(

Posted : September 20, 2011 10:36 am
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my favorites:
Lucy with Tumnus, and his narnia lullaby.
The battle scene specially Oreius courage
all the movie

for me there are no worst moments :D

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Posted : September 21, 2011 5:37 am
wolfloversk
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I really hate Maugrim having an American accent. It sounds so out of place. :(

I don't really mind all the creatures having different accents, actually I think it's cool because it gives the story and the characters more depth.

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Posted : September 21, 2011 10:07 am
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