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Dinode
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I think if they could do motion capture animation like they used for gollum and for the movie "Mars Needs Moms", that could allow for much more realism. It did take me a few minutes to get used to it in the movie, but I think that is a price I would be willing to pay.

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Posted : July 3, 2012 5:57 pm
Ithilwen
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Also, if PIXAR wanted to take a crack at it, I don't think you could get me to form a coherent thought for days.

Hmm, there's a thought—Pixar doing the Narnia films? When I first read that, I wasn't sure whether Pixar could handle the deeper side of the Narnia books, but then I realized that wouldn't be a problem. They've already proved themselves to me when it comes to balancing lighthearted action with heartwarming moments: Up and Monsters Inc. come to mind specifically. I might not mind too much if Pixar did an adaptation. I think they could make it into a really beautiful, heartwarming, adventurous movie, and hopefully make it into a good adaptation to boot.

Yes, Pixar movies definitely have a way of bringing the tears to your eyes. ;)) I have no doubt they could get the heart of it... Not so sure about the theological elements, though. Although, Pixar animation, while good, is not the most realistic out there... What about the makers of the animated Christmas Carol movie?

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Posted : July 3, 2012 9:49 pm
Dinode
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What about the makers of the animated Christmas Carol movie?

That's another example of a motion capture animation film. Also, wasn't Disney the one who made that movie too? Perhaps their animation department or Pixar, both of which are under John Lasseter, could handle it better than their live action department?

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Posted : July 4, 2012 4:07 am
NarnianMonkey
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Perhaps their animation department or Pixar, both of which are under John Lasseter, could handle it better than their live action department?

Maybe, Dinode. After all, Pixar (and Disney's animation department) makes movies of a different kind than Disney's live action department, so I guess it could work. If Pixar (or Disney's animation department) did a 3D-animated version of the Narnia movies, then I would be fine with it as long as the movies are good enough.

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Posted : July 4, 2012 4:47 am
Narnian_Badger
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Yes, Pixar movies definitely have a way of bringing the tears to your eyes. ;)) I have no doubt they could get the heart of it... Not so sure about the theological elements, though.

I believe if you get the heart of Narnia, it is impossible to not also get its theology. Besides that, I think there are some professed Christians on the board at Pixar... I can pretty well trust Pixar to not add random plot elements, at least.

Although, Pixar animation, while good, is not the most realistic out there... What about the makers of the animated Christmas Carol movie?

Movies like The Christmas Carol and The Polar Express, which had more 'realistic' art, tend to fall too far into the Uncanny Valley for me. They're almost human looking, but it's just different enough to look a little creepy. :-s :P

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Posted : July 4, 2012 6:57 am
Dinode
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Movies like The Christmas Carol and The Polar Express, which had more 'realistic' art, tend to fall too far into the Uncanny Valley for me. They're almost human looking, but it's just different enough to look a little creepy.

I think the phenomena you are referring to is known as the uncanny valley. I had a similar reaction to the first few minutes of Mars Needs Moms, which was filmed in the same way, but I got used to it, and I think I could do the same thing for a Narnia film.

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Posted : July 4, 2012 7:22 am
Narnian_Badger
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Ha, yes, that's why I referred to it as the Uncanny Valley. ;)) I haven't seen Mars Needs Moms (it looked a bit... silly), so I can't speak for that film. But I'd rather be able to enjoy a film all the way through, and not have to "get used to it" first, if you understand me. ;)

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Posted : July 4, 2012 8:59 am
Varnafinde
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I feel that Narnia should be made primarily as a live action movie, although with enough CGI and animation to create the special creatures that are needed in that land. I wouldn't want that uncanny feeling in Narnia movies - although I haven't seen enough movies of that kind to ever have experienced it myself.

It's a land that a human should be king of, so perhaps it's one that should be filmed with live action humans as well ;)


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Posted : July 4, 2012 9:38 am
Narnian_Badger
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It's a land that a human should be king of, so perhaps it's one that should be filmed with live action humans as well ;)

Yep... I just hope they don't do live thespians in an animated world, a la Space Jam. That's an awesome movie, but it's certainly not the style I'd want to see Narnia in. ;))

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Posted : July 4, 2012 12:28 pm
wolfloversk
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Yep... I just hope they don't do live thespians in an animated world, a la Space Jam. That's an awesome movie, but it's certainly not the style I'd want to see Narnia in. ;))

I agree Badger, either one or the other, but not both. For those who support realistic 3-D animation only, can you explain more as to why? I'm just curious, as I'm more of a fan of 2-D animation, myself.

I think Narnia has the potential to be one of those animated films that could prove animation is not strictly for kids, but also something adults can also enjoy... I'd really love to see that line of thought more in the Hollywood world, which is why I do find the idea intriguing at the very least.

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Posted : July 4, 2012 12:41 pm
Narnian_Badger
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I agree Badger, either one or the other, but not both. For those who support realistic 3-D animation only, can you explain more as to why? I'm just curious, as I'm more of a fan of 2-D animation, myself.

Mostly? In my case, it'd be because 3D just feels closer to live action to me. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love 2D animation, especially in the Disney classics. I just think the more... physical feel, I guess? would be more suitable for Narnia.

I think Narnia has the potential to be one of those animated films that could prove animation is not strictly for kids, but also something adults can also enjoy...

Ah yes, the Animation Age Ghetto... ;))

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Posted : July 4, 2012 1:01 pm
Dinode
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I know that many of the animated shows on TV are definitely "adult", although something for all ages could help I guess. I still think 3D would be better for showing the epic parts of Narnia, I think a 3D Tash would look a lot scarier than a 2D one.

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Posted : July 5, 2012 5:35 pm
Lilygloves
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I am trying to imagine an animated Narnia film in any way shape and form and I just can't get myself to like any of those ideas. It feels cheep and too "happy-go-lucky Disney" to have an animated Narnia. That would be fine for a direct to dvd movie, like some of those old Christmas specials, but I just don't see it working for a major film like this. I vote down for animation.

Posted : July 5, 2012 5:41 pm
7chronicles
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I would really, really want Narnia to remain being filmed as a Live Action film!
There is just something special about seeing what you have had pictured in your head come to life on screen in front of you!
Especially with the special effects now a days! :)

To me, if they did decide to go with making it an Animated film, the only way I would be for it, is if it was filmed using Mo-Cap and having very realistic animation.
A good example of how I would like it filmed would be The Adventures of Tintin!
I Love the coloring and animation in this movie!
I could see this type of media capturing Narnia's heart and world and to tell the story with real emotion! :)

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Posted : July 5, 2012 8:33 pm
twinimage
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Just because it's animation, doesn't mean it will be cheap or child-oriented.
There's North American animated films that are not your typical cheerful, kiddy films. Ever heard of Rock and Rule or Fire and Ice? Good animation and a tone that is "Non-Disney". There are others I could mention, but they are VERY adult oriented.
There's also anime, but I can't imagine Narnia working well with anime. 8-}
Doing something in the likeness of the adventures of Tintin would be kind of neat.

With the way Hollywood is right now, I'm so tired of live action, CGI "enhanced" adaptions of EVERYTHING, being made by Michael Bay-esque film makers.
Right now, we don't have a "Peter Jackson" for Narnia, so there's no point in a Hollywood studio trying to force out another live action movie. They would just be milking the series as another money making scheme.

Posted : July 6, 2012 3:49 am
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