Sure Disney started a stupid romance that shouldn't have been there, but they did end it as well! It's just that kiss needed to be taken out most of all! I agree as well that Fox should not have added that line with Caspian saying "none could compare with your sister." but it's there so that they could give Suspian fans something to awe at.

Actually Disney didn't end it- the book ended it. Susan simply left Narnia and wasn't allowed to come back. End of story, almost end of the romance until we find that Caspian is still in love.

I don't agree with how you said he's still in love with her just by the way her bow and horn is displayed in his room. So is Peter's and Lucy's belongings, they are displayed in his room as well.

It's not just her bow on display or her picture painted on the wall, it's the compilation of that with his statement, "None could compare with your sister." Lucy's gift was in a closed cupboard, as was Peter's gift and Edmund's torch. Perhaps the green mist DID get to Caspian and caused this awful romance/attraction to begin with. What a load of crock since the green mist shouldn't have ever existed.

I will admit I loved what I saw between Caspian and Lilliandil.

I enjoyed the scenes with Lilliandil as well, I just wanted there to be more depth for her character and for us to see something develop. But as Valiant said, every plot was underdeveloped.

Basically I come from the purist camp. Stick to the book and if it kills the normal, "movie" then so be it. Just stay true to the story and everything will work out fine. Obviously VODT fails at this massively.

I don't agree with how you said he's still in love with her just by the way her bow and horn is displayed in his room. So is Peter's and Lucy's belongings, they are displayed in his room as well.

It's not just her bow on display or her picture painted on the wall, it's the compilation of that with his statement, "None could compare with your sister." Lucy's gift was in a closed cupboard, as was Peter's gift and Edmund's torch. Perhaps the green mist DID get to Caspian and caused this awful romance/attraction to begin with. What a load of crock since the green mist shouldn't have ever existed.

Okay serious think of going over board much ericnovak? I didn't like that line as much as you did either! Caspian is no different from Rabadash, the geek, and the other men who lusted after Susan. Sure he said what he said, doesn't mean he loves her in that true love way, like the others they think the same that Caspian does! They all can't have her and will never have her! Susan will have many boyfriends and find her man one day, just like Caspian found his soul mate, lilliandil.

Putting Susan's horn on display infront of a lion could resemble what saved Narnia not just because he still in wuv with her. He's a grown up and I'm sure what he said didn't mean that he still wanted Susan just that women that he's already suited didn't reach the expectations he saw in Susan, or thought he saw. i think you seriously go overboard!

Stop going off on me because I did enjoy this film as a whole.

Sorry if I came across as going after you, Damsel. I'm just discussing to movie in general, not trying to have a fight with you at all. I hope I don't come across and dissing the whole film- we're just talking about things that didn't go quiet the way we expected them to.

No it's just i don't want to get any bad ideas about the movie because I did like it a lot. Just I didn't like how small Lilliandil's character was. i'm still trying to keep my hopes high about it anf hope to see more of Lilliandil and her relationship with Caspian explained more in SC.

They might be leaving it all until sc, so they can have like a scene at the start showing their wedding ect. I was hopping they would show it at the end of vdt though.

I'm glad the wedding wasn't shown in VDT, it would have seemed to rushed, and the movie was already fast paced. This would work so much better in SC I think as well. I hope to see it there

I'm glad the wedding wasn't shown in VDT, it would have seemed to rushed, and the movie was already fast paced. This would work so much better in SC I think as well. I hope to see it there

I totally agree. But if we get to SC we might rather see a cameo of an obviously married Caspian and Lilliandil, perhaps holding the infant Rilian. More relevant, don't you think?

waggawerewolf27, yes! that would be good too, even better actually- but maybe they can show both. Sort of like a dream sequence, but different, where they show pieces of the stages of their courtship, finishing with the holding of baby Rilian, after which it will go to "present" when she is killed by serpent and he shortly thereafter kidnapped.

I really don't think they can do more in SC. I think they have to keep Caspian old and i have never been big on flashbacks. I mean they can show a short flashback of Ramandu's daughter being killed and their son being taken and Caspian could somehow be included in that flashback, but i don't really think they should show anything more then that.

This is the problem with the Susan/Caspian romance. They can't fix it though, so i think they just have to move on as if it didn't happen the best they can.

I wish the scene on Ramandu's Island with Lilliandil would have been just a few minutes longer to set up her relationship with Caspian before SC!

Caspian's line about Susan bothered me less than expected, since it could have been taken to mean he hadn't found a woman who had the same grace and poise of a queen of old - and it was obviously meant to factor into Lucy's inferiority complex more than anything.

I wish we had more Lilliandil/Caspian moments in the film. Honestly, I'm starting to think the leaked script would have been a better movie, if only for introducing the blue star/Lilliandil bit earlier. But I thought both Ben and Laura did a good job showing in their facial expressions that there was definitely an attraction between them.

I really don't think they can do more in SC. I think they have to keep Caspian old and i have never been big on flashbacks. I mean they can show a short flashback of Ramandu's daughter being killed and their son being taken and Caspian could somehow be included in that flashback, but i don't really think they should show anything more then that.

I don't see how SC can be done without a flashback of some sort, to explain Jill's and Eustace's mission. The BBC television series has two. A vague one for Jill when she was first told about the signs, which I think would be unnecessary in a film, and a much longer one to explain the sequence of events which led Rilian to be missing, during the Owl Parliament. Somehow this information will have to be explained somewhere. So maybe we will see Caspian and Lilliandil then.

Another possibility is how a film maker might choose to do the closing scenes after Caspian's death.

Putting Susan's horn on display infront of a lion could resemble what saved Narnia not just because he still in wuv with her.

Of course. And it was an adventure with an ancient artifact which concerned Caspian very closely, wasn't it? The horn, itself, would have been a reminder of how Aslan helped him to become king.

I was quite disappointed with the whole Caspain/Lilliandil thing, not so much because it was so short, but because it lack depth, I could see that they were attracted to each other, and since I read the book I knew they were going to get married, but somehow I wish there had been more to that scene. Everything on that Ramamdu's Island seemed to be going waaay to fast, too rushed and that sort of spoiled the romance of the moment.
I didn't mind the line about Susan in the beginning so much, the only thing that kinda bothered me was the horn. According to the book it was left with Trumpkin, was is it doing on on the ship . Anyway, I was quite disappointed with the Caspian/Lilliandil scene, but it wasn't to bad, like I said, it wasn't that it was so short that bothered me, it that it somehow lack a depth to it

Or maybe, what we were missing is that the emotional buildup was already with Lilliandil, the blue star, rather than Caspian's pleasant surprise that the blue star could also be a very attractive-looking girl?

I actually was glad they left the Caspian/Lilliandil thing the way it was since that's how it was in the book. We don't even know that Lilliandil and Caspian fall in love much less get married until the Silver Chair. There was no big romance in the movie, no big romance in the book. Sure, Caspian & Lilliandil were attracted to each other at first sight, but C.S. Lewis implied that they waited before any love was proclaimed. Both of them knew that Caspian had to finish his quest before they could commit to anything.

In fact, I would have liked it less if there had been more romance. In my opinion, it would have been impractical for Caspian to promise any sort of future relationship to Lilliandil because 1.) they had just met and 2.) he was going into the Dark Island and wasn't sure whether he'd return.

The Silver Chair is where they can truly get rid of Suspian once and for all. Once the movie audience sees Caspian and Lilliandil happily married (with a child no less), and how both he and Susan have moved on, Suspian will not be an issue anymore. In my opinion, that's how Walden Media can finish and perhaps undo what they started.