Oh ok. Cuz your posts are similar

Well it doesn't really say why none of them married, did it? I can't remember for sure. Susan just didn't want to marry Prince Icky in HHB. Though she was willing to go visit him.

Susan/Caspian's romance was based purely on physical attraction? Well what was Caspian/Lilliandil's based on then? She had much less time to get to know him.

And yes Caspian marries Lilliandil, yay for him. Susan likes flirting with the officers better, evidently XD. But filmwise, they handled Susaspian better. Unfortunately, seeing they don't even come close to marrying!

I think our posts are similar because we have the same beliefs and we hang out way too much.

The Rabadash and Susan storyline had always bothered me and one of the reasons why Susan isn't really one of my favorite characters. I mean i know what Rabadash did was horrible but it reminded me of Suspian, love is like a game to her in a way.

I think part of Caspian's attraction to Lilliandil was her dominance. if you can remember the way she looked to the crew and announed who she was and everyone bowed, it proves she is worthy of leadership. I think that is what Caspian was searching for all along and I bet he was very attracted to that reason.

I dont think they handled Suspian at all, like Adamson's interview: "They are both good looking so why not?"
He should of written a decent storyline instead of flopping oh a kiss, flirting and rescuing on horseback is romantic enough. It was underdeveloped characterization.

I like Lilliandil and Caspian better because when you first meet of course you're not going to start a true romance like that. I liked that the mission was concentrated on first and after of course he's going back to Lilliandil and then their relationship will grow. View my first post on this thread.

I was very surprised that they spent almost no time at all developing this romance. And I know I wasn't exaggerated in this feeling because when I told my husband that these two later married, (he's never read the books) he was completely surprised. So, not even a small hint of what's to come. In fact, I have to go back and read, but I always thought this was one of the main things that kept Caspian from entering Aslan's country.

@ Cymru I KNOW!! They expanded everything else! In Silver Chair? Maybe? Please???

Haha yeah that's a really good reason to add a mini-romance They look good together!! Made a lot of people annoyed, is what it did....

Love is a game to Susan because she saw the truth about a guy that was manipulating her to conquer Narnia?! Not quite seeing the connection, sorry.

I like Lilliandil and Caspian better because when you first meet of course you're not going to start a true romance like that.

Well the second thing he said to her was "you are very beautiful!" That's some good "undeveloped characterization" if you ask me! He really jumped the gun on that one Maybe since he waited for Susan and she left he thought he'd better get going on this one Just kidding, promise! But it is funny....

Wait, he was attracted to her dominance? He comments on her beauty, not her composure and status....

All of that about Rabadash is very true PrincessMia, but I'm talking about all of her suitors in general, I mean I like Susan and all, don't get me wrong, I like her because she has huge flaws while at the same time compared to being beautiful and I like that in characters. It also makes me think if in her own world she does the same with young men, at least that was how it looked in the movie when Lucy started to have that vision about being Susan.

Yeah but that was how he felt in the book. Even book Caspian wanted to rush to kiss Ramandu's daughter. People can tell about a persons stature and body language. If you ever consider taking speech courses you can learn about how a person holds them self together. Lilliandil obviously did or said something in a way for Caspian to compliment her.

I doubt Caspian getting all attracted toward Lilliandil had anything to do with him getting over Susan. But I guess that's your opinion then.

I felt like this whole movie was so under developed and rushed- not just the romance.

I just don't remember them talking about any other suitors then Rabadash. I mean, Lewis mentioned them in passing, all these princes came to ask for her hand. But there wasn't anything to show that she played games with them that I remember.

Yeah but that was how he felt in the book. Even book Caspian wanted to rush to kiss Ramandu's daughter.

That was all Lewis: he didn't want to have a full-blown romance in his books, obviously So their romance was still underdeveloped in the books. And that's fine. Their romance/marriage wasn't so important, as was Lilliandil having Rilian so there would be Silver Chair It's just weird in the movies, imo, knowing that they later get married after seeing each other once.
And yes Lilliandil did do something to attract him: she just stood there and spoke. And he falls head-over-heels, it's hilarious, love it. But not so developed :'(

I doubt Caspian getting all attracted toward Lilliandil had anything to do with him getting over Susan. But I guess that's your opinion then.

Oh I don't think so either. I was saying (tongue-in-cheek) that just glancing/subtly flirting with Susan didn't work so well for him, so he jumps straight in with Lilliandil But I know that's not why, I just thought it was funny.

*eyes mods anxiously* I don't want to get the thread locked by discussing in an animated manner

See that's the difference between how I see it and how you see it. lol

Thing is I don't think of the films perception or what it shows me, I think okay so now they've met, and now Lucy, Edmund and Lucy returns home, now Caspian is probably going to say a few words and return to Ramandu Island where he will get to know Lilliandil for a few months during the winter season, they fall in love, get married, have Rilian and live happily ever after for years.

Don't think I'm trying to offend I'm just giving an example. You probably see it as what you saw that was given in the film VDT and PC. In PC yeah Caspian and Susan had more screen time, but it was all in a three-four day period and they never suited each other.

Back to Caspian and Lilliandil you saw them flirt for merely two minutes or three. But as opposed to their romance duration it lasts for about 23 or 24 years.

Kind of see the difference relationship wise?

lol i know I'm just very easilyupset today, no worries.

Oh yes, it makes perfect sense knowing the back story. But many people, like Cymru's husband, don't know/remember it. All they see is hey, Susan/Caspian flirted for a whole movie. In the movie he sees Lilliandil only once, though granted, it's obvious he really likes her. I just think they could have expanded on it a bit more Showed a scene at the end, during the credits or something. I'd love to see them hug/kiss, and then a shot of their wedding. And now the only way they can show it is in Silver Chair in flashback, and that might be awkward.

If the two of them hadn't shown any attraction in PC I think it'd be fine. As it is right now, it seems abrupt and kinda thrown in there. They could add a whole story line of Susan/Caspian in PC, but can't add just a few minutes more for Lilliandil? :'( Oh well.

@emijoy yeah it did feel rushed And they even combined several of the islands!

Caspiandill was so much sweeter. she was nice and they didn't make a big deal of it and kiss and all that!
yay!

While Susan and Caspian may have been set up more, I felt that Ben and Laura had more chemistry than Ben and Anna.

Now that I've seen the movie, I can say I'm not a fan of the Liliandil/Caspian romance, even though it's canon. I'm not necessarily saying I'm a big supportor of Suspian, but even before I saw the movie, I've thought Caspian/Liliandil's "romance" was rather...flat. They see eachother, "flirt", and then end up married/dead/old in the next book. I prefer romances that are based on personality, and not so much love at first sight, and physical attractive. At least in PC-movie-version, Susan and Caspian got to know eachother a little.

Personally, I'm not a fan of either romance.

I mean, I wanted there to be a Caspian/Lilliandil romance. Not because I think it is a good romance, per se, but because 1. it is canon, and a good mark for the adaptation's faithfulness level, and 2. it would help me erase horrible memories of Susaspian. In those senses, the lack of any romance at all disappointed me.

That said, let's consider why I abhor Susaspian so much: it is because their romance basically appeals to the classic "spontaneous romance" that seems to be every teenage girl's dream (or something like that), lacking in all those elements of romantic development that would actually make a relationship successful. And I do not like that kind of romance. Not only is it bland and boring, but I think it also contributes to the high divorce rate and other evidence of the deterioration of relationships in modern society. (Not that it's the only or main factor, but it sure isn't helping the cause.)

Here's the thing, though, and Valiant_Lucy touched upon this: The romance between Caspian and Ramandu's Daughter, even in the books, has the exact same problem. And I did not like it there, either. I can forgive Lewis for it, since he's obviously writing an adventure novel and not a romance novel... but needless to say, romance is not VotDT's strong point. (Or Narnia's strong point in general, considering how few there were, though some of the other ones in there aren't bad.)

The lack of any development in the movie, then, is really less a problem with the movie and more a limitation of the source material.

So yeah, I don't like Susan/Caspian and I don't like Lilliandil/Caspian. Sorry, Caspian, clearly romance was not your forte.

No worries for me, though; I'll just wait for Shasta/Aravis.

I don't have anything against Susan and Caspian as a couple but I was really hoping they would do more with Caspian and Lilliandil for the sake of book canon and movie continuity. Knowing Lilliandil is going to be his Queen and the mother of his only child, I expected some development between these two. I would have liked to see some evidence of growth in Caspian as a character to tie PC into VDT, that way we can see Caspian as a Prince falling into some sort of harmless puppy love there become Caspian the King who not only keeps his word to a young woman he just met but doesn't marry her until after they've returned to Narnia soil. I was sorely disappointed that the Sleeping Beauty exchange in the book was completely cut out of the film. The "I can change form." line was cute but I think it made Lilliandil too passive and vapid compared to the young lady in the book who tells Caspian maybe he needs to break the enchantment in order to get his kiss which was a clever retort to his obvious attraction. There was more to these two in the book than there was in the film and for a production trying to undo the Susan and Caspian relationship I think this was a bizarre way of doing it.

I think the romance of Caspian and RD in the books was spontaneous and sweet, but it was Caspian's first real "crush". He hadn't really been interested in women seriously, and I think that he wintered on the island before he came home and courted her. The romance in VDT (book) is so small that it's just a hint, but how much more can you get than a hint if you're only talking with a girl that you're attracted to for ten minutes?

In the movie, however, it was even smaller than a hint, which bothered me. At least I have the book to read and enjoy.