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Bother Eustace
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I really like the name Lilliandil; it fits well, I think. I'm also glad they named her; I don't think I would have liked having her just be called "Ramandu's Daughter" in the movie. I do, however, understand why some people may have preferred her to remain unnamed; after all, Lewis intentionally didn't give her a name while other characters in the series who have even smaller parts do get named (Like the three dwarfs Shasta meets when he enters Narnia, to name an example). However, I don't think it would have worked in a movie to have a main character fall deeply and madly in love with a character who we know nothing about, not even a name. As an audience, we feel attached to these characters, and we want to know these sort of things in more detail. All the Caspian fangirls out there need a name to vent rage upon in Fanfics, after all. (Just a joke!!!)

It does sound like Rilian, as others pointed out. I like that. I also like that it is reminiscent of the Lilies at the end of the world.


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Posted : June 1, 2010 9:33 am
Lady_Liln
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I kinda would have rathered that she was unnamed, but I'm happy with Lilliandil. It has a lovely, light feeling to it. The fact that Douglas Gresham came up with it comforts me too. :p I've been expecting to see a name, so I'm not shocked by the news. And, in the long run, it doesn't change whether or not Laura Brent is going to give a wonderful performance as Ramandu's Daughter, nor will it make the film a blockbuster. So, I'm content for now. :p

I wouldn't have wanted anyone but Douglas Gresham to name her.

Well, I would have preferred C. S. Lewis, if someone had to. But, Douglas Gresham is my second choice. ;) :)

Edit: I love the feature warning me that someone posted recently and I may have missed it, but this is the third time I've hit submit! :p


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Posted : June 1, 2010 9:36 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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Words can't say how glad I am that they have given her a name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D I am completely overjoyed!!!!! I like the name well enough. It beats having no name in my eyes.

Posted : June 1, 2010 9:43 am
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I felt Lewis was rather obvious showing that Caspian had fallen head over heels for RD. Aside from him trying to steal a kiss from her to wake the sleeping Lords ;)) she is the only reason holding him back from sailing to Aslan's Country at the end of the world. At least before Aslan talks to him.

Caspian is definitely head-over-heels in love, there's no disputing that. But other than the Sleeping Beauty line and when he tells her he wants to see her again not much happens. I guess I didn't say it quite right. What I meant was not a lot of "romance" happens. It's very understated. They're "romance" looks more like this: :) , than this: @};- :-*. Does that make sense?

Well, I would have preferred C. S. Lewis, if someone had to. But, Douglas Gresham is my second choice. ;) :)

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Posted : June 1, 2010 9:46 am
PrincessMia241
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I'm glad she got a name :) And it's pretty, I love it. Think of it this way, maybe she's sad at being such an important character and doesn't have a name! I wonder if CS Lewis did think of one just decided not to use it.

She's barely in the books, and so yeah no name added to her mysteriousness. But if she's going to be in the movie longer than five minutes I think it's necessary. It would make it easier to reference her later on, then just by Star's Daughter or RD alone.

And I hope they expand the romance :) Don't kill me haha! The books had very little romance at all, which is totally fine as the characters were all younger. C.S. Lewis wasn't writing chick lit. But since the movie characters are a older, it makes more sense: as long as it's sweet and innocence and not a main theme (which I doubt it will be). I, for one, would be disappointed with a "I hope I'll see you again, bye!! *smiles*"

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Posted : June 1, 2010 9:47 am
sweeetlilgurlie
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I'm okay with this, but I certainly don't like the name. Lilliandil? It's like Lillian and then the herb dill. Plus it sounds like Tolkien. Quite original, I'm sure. 8-|

At least I like the name Lillian. I wonder how it's intoned. Lill-ee-an-DILL or Lilly-ON-dill, or what?

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Posted : June 1, 2010 9:49 am
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While I like that Douglas Gresham made the name, I don't actually like it, really. It reminds me too much of some sort of faux-Elvish name that a LOTR fanfic author might name their Mary Sue. Plus, the ending -dil is a male ending in Elvish, which stops me short a bit.

Hopefully they'll at least pronounce it Lilly-On-dil, which at least doesn't sound like they tacked a syllable on the end of an English name.


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Posted : June 1, 2010 10:27 am
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*is undoubtedly going to be impaled with tomatoes for not knowing whether it's "affect" or "effect"*

You got it right. ;)) "affect" is the verb. I always think that some sort of action has to come before a result so the one that comes first in the alphabet is the verb.

I'm not surprised they gave her a name. It doesn't really matter to me one way or the other.

I'm okay with this, but I certainly don't like the name. Lilliandil? It's like Lillian and then the herb dill. Plus it sounds like Tolkien. Quite original, I'm sure. 8-|

It does sound like a name Tolkien would come up with. ;))

At least I like the name Lillian. I wonder how it's intoned. Lill-ee-an-DILL or Lilly-ON-dill, or what?

Good question. I'm horrid with that kind of thing so I haven't a clue. I can't even figure out where I'm putting the emphasis when I say it.


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Posted : June 1, 2010 10:35 am
DamselJillPole
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Whahoo! It's Lispian! :D :D :D :D ;)

I love her name Lilliandil!! Although part of me wishes it was just Lillian but i can live with this name. She has a name :D

Lirenel I love your pronunciation of the name. i'm excited now.


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Posted : June 1, 2010 10:44 am
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It reminds me too much of some sort of faux-Elvish name that a LOTR fanfic author might name their Mary Sue. Plus, the ending -dil is a male ending in Elvish, which stops me short a bit.

Hopefully they'll at least pronounce it Lilly-On-dil, which at least doesn't sound like they tacked a syllable on the end of an English name.

It does sound a bit Elvish, but I doubt many people will know that -dil is a masculine ending in Elvish, nor will it matter since this is Narnia, not Middle Earth. There are no elves in Narnia.

I am more troubled that it sounds so much like Lillian.

And about the foreshadowing of the Silver Sea:
I thought Ramandu couldn't tell the crew of the Dawn Treader what sorts of things were further East. Could Ramandu tell that the Silver Sea was full of lillies from the sky? If not, then it doesn't stand to reason that he'd name his daughter after the lillies.

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Posted : June 1, 2010 10:45 am
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I'm pretty cool with the name. I didn't think I was going to be crazy about no matter how awesome it was, and this isn't too bad. It does sound a bit Tolkien, but I think it will work nicely. :)

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Posted : June 1, 2010 11:15 am
narnialover101
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Lilliandil? It's like Lillian and then the herb dill.

Kind of like Puddle and then the adjective glum? ;)

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Posted : June 1, 2010 11:26 am
beloved
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I adore Lilliandil, it's just a beautiful name. I did think is sounded a bit elvish, it reminded me of Erendil, the star Galadriel gives to Frodo, which doesn't bother me in the slightest since she does have star blood in her. Overall I absolutely love it. I couldn't have come up with a better name myself.
I'm not sure what to think about the lilly connection though. I could come up with a few wild fan-fictions on how it came to be, but nothing more.

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Posted : June 1, 2010 11:54 am
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And about the foreshadowing of the Silver Sea:
I thought Ramandu couldn't tell the crew of the Dawn Treader what sorts of things were further East. Could Ramandu tell that the Silver Sea was full of lillies from the sky? If not, then it doesn't stand to reason that he'd name his daughter after the lillies.

I wonder if the Lily type flowers or petals of the Silver Sea were an influence or inspiration?

I haven't read any posts about this name foreshadowing anything. My thought was that Douglas Gresham may have been influenced by this, knowing the whole story as he does. But I think I like the Lilliandill/Rillian connection better.

Maybe someday Douglas Gresham will let us know the inspiration for this name. :)
(Maybe there were lilies on Ramandu's Island; doesn't say there weren't any.) :D

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Posted : June 1, 2010 11:57 am
DamselJillPole
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I can't wait to hear how Douglas thought about it. Now that I think about it the name does sound a little bit elvish but I cannot wait to hear how it's pronounced.


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Posted : June 1, 2010 12:03 pm
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