I agree with ChristProclaimer, I really hope that Lilliandil doesn't act like a complete daddy's girl and kiss up. Yeah I don't think we will see Ramandu in the trailer either. I'm still 99% sure that the star Caspian follows is Lilliandil but we will see.
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I haven't watched/ read any LoTR so there is no comparison for me. I am not saying she is a kiss up. I just believe she probably has a very close relationship with her father as it seems they have the island mostly to themselves. It would seem there are three options (though I could be entirely wrong.)
1. She has a close relationship with her father.
2. She is a very lonely person
3. She has been doing the overdone disney princess thing and she sits and talks to all the animals all day long.
I didn't say that you called her a kiss up
I was merely saying that in my opinion that I hope Lilliandil isn't a kiss up towards her father if he's a Daddy's Girl, which I hope not.
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I guess I just don't want Ramandu to be all "Take not my daughter from me and ask her to forsake the immortal life of our people in the sky" type thing.
Though I do hope they present the two as having a good, close relationship.
I'm hoping that Ramandu won't be skipped over for his daughter. If she sings the song alone, and takes all his lines to do the explaining, I'd be rather sad, because he was quite an interesting character, IMO.
^ Yeah, Ramandu was very fascinating and one of my favorites. I would probably really miss him a lot if they didn't put him in.
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In my opinion, it appears to me that Ramandu is going to be completely cut from the movie. We never got a casting announcement for him, and he was not seen in the trailer (though those are not phenomenal reasons to be worried). The only thing we have seen that seems to point in the other direction (Ramandu being included) is that even on Narnia.com with the possible island order and such, the island is still called Ramandu's Island. Could you have Ramandu's Island without a Ramandu?!?
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I can see them cutting out Ramandu or at least combining his character with his daughter. After all, "Lililandill" will probably be more interesting to Hollywood since she marries Caspian.
No Ramandu!!
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That's true! Plus, the fact that they gave her her own name might suggest something. Why would she be referred to as 'Ramandu's Daughter' if Ramandu is not present at all in the movie!
"I'm a beast I am, and a Badger what's more. We don't change. We hold on. I say great good will come of it... And we beasts remember, even if Dwarfs forget, that Narnia was never right except when a son of Adam was King." -Trufflehunter
A concept art gave us the name of the island "Ramandu's Island". And we still have yet to hear about the casting for Aunt Alberta and Uncle Harold.
Though to be honest, I would rather the character Ramandu be cut instead of having him be this huge distraction of Caspian and Lilliandil's character development. I do hope Lilliandil talks about him and such, but this is something I find completely necessary if Ramandu is not in the film.
*Ducks from flying tomatoes*
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All Lilliandil needs to say is "I am Lilliandil, daughter of the star Ramandu, etc"
The guy was never that important to me. Lilliandil is more important to the plot so just give his expository dialouge to her.
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Alright I think there will be a Ramandu,
did anyone notice the treasure clue an narnia.com today? Plus it still says Ramandu's island on the map. I'll edit in the quote.
Don't ask me why they won't tell us who's playing him though...
Edit:
"The voyagers met an old man at rest,
An encounter that proved a great pleasure.
The highest point on this island retirement
Points north to the chest filled with treasure."
~Today's Narnian treasure clue from CC
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But all those treasure clues are from Cameron Cloud. To my understanding, he doesn't really have anything to do with the actual film or anything. He's just a regular fan, like you and I, with a facebook account. He would always comment in the treasure discussion on VDT's fanpage. He was usually the one to find the treasure first and he gave really good clues within the discussion, so Naria decided to use his clues as the official clues. He has no more inside knowledge than we do. He's just really good at giving hints once he's found the treasure.
This doesn't make any sense. Why would it still be called Ramandu's Island if there is no Ramandu? (Unless they have some tragic backstory where they kill him off... I hope not! )
It could be that it's some big secret and we'll all be shocked by who is playing him. Maybe it's Christopher Lee.
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Just because the island name would be "Ramandu Island" doesn't mean that Ramandu himself should or will be present. If he is present then I hope that he's not present like he was in the book. That would be very annoying. it seriously annoyed me first reading the book because I wanted Caspian and RD to talk more or have this Sleeping Beauty like romance. Hopefully they'll do this in the movie. Being a huge Narnia fan like I am I don't really care too much for Ramandu himself. I always thought he was huge distraction and I wanted him gone. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he is not present.
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Agghhh! Twice I messed up and accidentally navigated away from this post in mid sentence.
Anyway, what I've been trying to say:
But all those treasure clues are from Cameron Cloud. To my understanding, he doesn't really have anything to do with the actual film or anything. He's just a regular fan, like you and I, with a facebook account. He would always comment in the treasure discussion on VDT's fanpage. He was usually the one to find the treasure first and he gave really good clues within the discussion, so Naria decided to use his clues as the official clues. He has no more inside knowledge than we do. He's just really good at giving hints once he's found the treasure.
Good Point I forgot about that I wonder though doesn't it have to go through the crew first, so would they really allow it if he wasn't in it? -but that's probably just another case of mr being hopeful.
(Unless they have some tragic backstory where they kill him off... I hope not! )
Ahh! Now I have to worry about them potentially killing off three characters?!- Oh No
DamselJillPole, I can see where you come from, I think, but I respectfully dissagree with you- Ramandu is one of my favorite characters and to me he's an important part of the book. I never thought he got in the way of Caspian and RD's relationship, at least not in anyway more than any of the other characters. I can relate with what you're saying though. When I first read Fell, by, David Clement-Davies, I thought that it focused to much on the character of Alina and not enough on Fell himself. But upon rereading it, I found Alina to be just as important as Fell and just as major a character. It's interesting how we can become attached to one or two characters, and then we rush through the parts about the rest of the characters, because we're impatient to read about our favorites.
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