I wouldn't boycott the movies either, That would be stupid and tiresome, but not boycott worthy.

Besides, I didnt hear any boycotts when Barbra Kellermen played the Lady of the Green Kirtle.

You may not have been around at the time? LWW 1988, PC/VDT 1989, SC 1990.

Sui-Lun said

the filmmakers of Narnia brought back the white witch in the other movies because they don't want us to forget her, and it seems like she's always trying to get back from the dead, so that makes it more obvious that they are having Tilda Swinton as the green witch.

People who are dead are not "always trying to get back from the dead". They are dead. It is not obvious that the film-makers are having Tilda play her - have you not read the comments on here?

Please refer to my comment on page 2 of this thread.

Here is my logic for how I thought they were the same.

1) Glimfeather said:

“Long, long ago, at the very beginning, a White Witch came out of the North and bound our land in snow and ice for a hundred years. And we think this is some of the same crew.”

Now, he doesn't say that they're the same, only of the same sort. Glumpuddle, I believe it was, said that Lewis meant that they are both witches, but I'm not so sure. They had already established previously in the conversation that she was a witch, so he must of meant something else.

2) At the end, one of the dwarfs says:

“And the lesson of it all is, your Highness, that those Northern Witches always mean the same thing, but in every age they have a different plan for getting it.”

This quote you could argue both ways. You can say that by the use of the plural “witches” a different witch is implied. You can also say that the second part of the sentence implies that it is the same witch with a different plan.

3) And last of all, what really convinced me was a quote by Aslan from Magician's Nephew:

“Alas, it will. Things always work according to their nature. She has won her heart's desire; she has unwearying strength and endless days like a goddess. But length of days with an evil heart is only length of misery and already she begins to know it. All get what they want; they do not always like it.”

So we know that the WW was/is immortal. The question is, does that mean she is unkillable, which can be implied from “unwearying strength” or only that she cannot die by natural causes and that Aslan could kill her.

On a related note, since when are Jadis and the White Witch the same? If it weren't for the quote in MN where Aslan says that most of the evil will fall on him, we would probably consider them to be different people, especially with the contradiction between the books as to her orgin.

So do you or do you not think it should be the same "person"?

I would boycott the series over something like having Aslan say "But there, I have other names"

You know, now that I think about it- technically that is true- but I'm getting off topic.
Frankly they are not the same person, and they were never meant to be,
that being said, I wouldn't mind Tilda being in the SC (not saying I'd like it, but I wouldn't dislike it either) as long as she doesn't appear as a witch! Didn't she play a centaur in PC? She could be that character again, and I would be perfectly okay with it.

My guess is that they will cram one scene with her in the movie, even if its less then 10 seconds, just so they can put Tilda in the trailer.

For instance, when talking about how WW and LotGK are of the same crew, the movie may be showing some sort of flashback that shows WW and LotGK among other witches.

Another thing, is they may have the WW be a guiding spirit to the LotGK.

I still think that it would be one of the worst reasons to boycott the series. Because after all, there are a lot of people who think they are the same. I've often switched sides on the debate. Currently, I am pretty sure they arent the same. But still the line "Though Under Earth and Throneless now I be, While I lived All Earth Was Under Me" makes me sometimes wonder if that was the WW speaking in the form of LotGK. Becausse LotGK is under earth, and throneless (though she plans to overthrow Narnia). But in her previous life, all earth was under her when she ruled Narnia in the 100 years of winter.

Sometimes I wish Lewis was still alive so he could end this debate once and for all- then again, would he even give us an answer?

I think it was written by the giant king like Rillian said it was, that would explain why it was there.

I know that, but still I get that vibe when I read it. After all, Rillain would only know what the Lady of the Green Kirtle told him. She could have lied and said it was from the giants.

And wasn't Jadis suppossed to be part giant anyway?

On a related note, since when are Jadis and the White Witch the same? If it weren't for the quote in MN where Aslan says that most of the evil will fall on him, we would probably consider them to be different people, especially with the contradiction between the books as to her orgin.

Um, the fact that the WW is called Jadis in LWW? And there is no contradiction between the books as to Jadis' origin. There's absolutely no reason why she can't be a descendant of Lilith and be from Charn.

I find it odd that Lewis mentioned Lilith. She's not from the Bible, so I don't know what religion believes in her. I never even knew who Lilith was until last year.

What is Lilith, some deity?

Some people believe that Lilith was the first woman created before Eve and that she was made the same way Adam was. After that she and Adam had an argument (I won't go into the details but it basically had to do with superiority). God then cast Lilith out of Eden and she ended up becoming a very evil demon.

In order to correct the mistake of Lilith, God created Eve who he made out of Adam's rib. Some versions of the story depict Lilith as the serpant who tempted Eve.

I have several issues with the story myself, the two biggest reasons being that it wasnt in the Bible, and that it makes God seem stupid for making a mistake with the creation of Lilith (when it was clear that everything he created was perfect).

I want to take a moment to answer this question.

Lewis had a reason for not saying they are different being in his novel. Do you want to know why?

BECAUSE ITS COMMON SENSE!!! The WHITE Witch died in Lww, and they introduce and EMERALD witch who goes by the lady of the green kirtle.

Of course Lewis wouldnt need to state they are not the same. Because any sane person first reading the book wouldnt come to that conclusion. Now because some grew up reading the misinformation in that one novel and BBC used the same actress, many thought it was what Lewis intended. -Invisible Woman

First, I think that just because he changed colors, that doesn't mean it's a different person, not that it means it's the same person either, IF you want to believe that. And it's common sense if you do want to believe that. But why didn't Lewis mention they're different? Because he knew that there would be a debate like this, and, even mentioned on Wikipedia (which is not ALWAYS a reliable site), that some people believe the witches are the same. He didn't mention it because he knew and didn't want anybody to claim stuff about it (okay, I accidentally did once) and so there would be no hurt feelings... that 'it is true! they're the same/ not the same...!' Film-makers can decide for themselves, and one can like the film or not and still not like the book.

Well I think Peridan and Bern are the same, they are both lords and they are both loyal to the king of Narnia.

It is totally ridiculous to claim 2 people with different features and personalities as the same simply because they both practice witchcraft.
Besides the WW was a giantess and she was pale because she ate the apple. And she was not even a spirit but a mortal like any of us until she ate the apple. And SHE IS DEAD.

The burden of proof is on the ones who claim they are the same not the ones who say they are different.