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[Closed] Poll: The Silver Chair - Emerald or White Witch?

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Trufflehunter
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Bookwyrm:

Any use of Tilda as the LotGK will mean people will assume that the two witches are the same. Besides, we've have her in three movies now. It's time for a change.

But then again, in the filmmakers' eyes, we've had the White Witch in three movies so far, we might as well add her into the fourth....

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Posted : October 7, 2010 1:30 pm
Bookwyrm
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Sadly, you're probably spot on with that point, Trufflehunter. If we make to to LB, I fully expect to see Tilda as Tash. Maybe even as Shift too.

Posted : October 7, 2010 8:01 pm
Valiant
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^^ If they did that (and I'm not ruling it out) that would be ridiculous. How many villians can she be? I voted that the WW and LotGK are different. Even if they can be considered the same person, I am so tired of the WW in 3 movies that I do not want to see the same thing again! With the MN and SC, that would be 5 movies she would appear in. Way too much for a villian that died in movie 1.

I think even non-book fans will get annoyed at having the same villian all the time and decide the film makers (and possibly books) are lacking in a variety of ideas and therefore they rehash old ideas over and over again.


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Posted : October 15, 2010 4:05 pm
Josh
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And her reappearring again and again also makes her less frightening. For instance, we all got excited when we saw the WW appear in the PC trailer. It got us talking. It was a good scene, and it was kinda creepy.

But then when we see her AGAIN in the VotDT, we feel the filmakers are trying to reuse the same trick they pulled in PC and this time it doesnt work. In fact I think the WW returning is something that could only work in one movie. Having her reappear twice after dying makes her seem more of a nusiance then a threat.

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Posted : October 15, 2010 6:25 pm
DamselJillPole
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^ agreed Josh she is so annoying and it would be so stupid to reuse her as LOGK. I don't mean to come off as mean here but like Rilian says: "I have seen there the most beautiful thing that was ever made." As if a 18 or 19 year old prince would go googly eyed over a middle aged woman like WW with dreadlocks and very plain.

Ew. The WW is most definitely not LOGK in this Narnian Universe.


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Posted : October 15, 2010 9:10 pm
Valiant
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Yes, it wouldn't really make sense to have the WW. I always felt the lotGK was more girlsih and "seemingly' sweet. The WW is more cold and distant.


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Posted : October 16, 2010 4:18 am
Brisa
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And her reappearring again and again also makes her less frightening. For instance, we all got excited when we saw the WW appear in the PC trailer. It got us talking. It was a good scene, and it was kinda creepy.

But then when we see her AGAIN in the VotDT, we feel the filmakers are trying to reuse the same trick they pulled in PC and this time it doesnt work. In fact I think the WW returning is something that could only work in one movie. Having her reappear twice after dying makes her seem more of a nusiance then a threat.

Exactly.
When I see the Witch in VotDT, I'm just like, *yawn* "her again?

She's probably just going to show up(in VotDT), say some creepy stuff and vanish again. If the evilness in the VotDT movie comes from the DI and not the WW, then why is she there at all?

So if they make the SC into a movie, I hope they cast someone else as the LotGK. Because whether the two witches are the same or not (and I don't think they are), I'm sick of the WW appearing everywhere, and if they cast Tilda Swinton as LotGK, everyone will assume they're the same.

Posted : October 16, 2010 8:27 am
Bookwyrm
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I think the movieverse WW must be part cockroach. The only way you can explain her surviving having her head bitten off and a sword rammed through her torso.

Posted : October 18, 2010 6:28 pm
Eustace
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I definitely think that WW and the Lady of the Green Kirtle should be different people. I think it would confuse the audience plus, they are actually different people in the book.

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Posted : October 19, 2010 7:54 am
Valiant
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I think it is just getting ridiculous putting her in every movie. She will be there in MN, she was there is LWW, PC and now, VDT. Thats 4 movies already. If they put her in SC, that is overkilling it. I mean, its already an overkill, but putting her in SC makes in even worse. I would not want LotGK played by Swinton if for no other reason than because she has appeared as a villian too many times in this series. I like Swinton as an actress, but it just doesn't work for the stories to have her play every villian.

Furthur more, wouldn't Eustace recognize her from VDT if she is portrayed as the LotGK? I just can't see how they would logically explain Eustace not realizing her as a villian if he already saw her...

I wouldn't mind them vaguley hinting that they might be related. MIGHT be related. I want it to be left ambiguous.


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Posted : October 19, 2010 11:10 am
aragorn2
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the WW appears to Edmund not Eustace, besides Eustace is a dragon in the DI.

Posted : October 19, 2010 11:16 am
Linden
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I voted an emphatic yes. It was always clear to me that the Lady of the Green Kirtle is a different person from the White Witch. The WW died, and they have completely different personalities (they also look different, but that doesn't really matter, as I'm sure the WW could change her looks if she wanted to. She did turn herself into a rock or tree stump. I forget.) There are several male villains in CoN but they never get confused (no one ever thinks that Miraz or Rabadash is Tash).

I don't get why the film makers want the White Witch to keep coming back. I understand that the critics loved her as the WW in both films, but they will get tired of her very quickly. It would make better sense to have an unknown beauty play the LotGK than to have Tilda play her.

On another note, I'm a little scared about what they're going to do with the LotGK's character, considering what they did to the WW. The WW already comes uncomfortably close to trying to seduce Edmund (esp. in the trailer). Just imagine if the WW is the LotGK (in the movies). I have bad (day) dreams of Tilda as the LotGK, going into full seduction mode. :-s Even though most of us hate the idea, I think Tilda will probably play the LotGK, from the way things are going now.

Posted : October 21, 2010 8:30 am
Valiant
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the WW appears to Edmund not Eustace, besides Eustace is a dragon in the DI.

Well that depends on whether only Edmund sees her. Doesn't she appear over Caspian's bed or something in the trailer? I don't know if anyone else sees her though. But if she did, and even if Dragon Eustace saw her, wouldn't he recognize her?


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Posted : October 21, 2010 12:37 pm
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I think the movieverse WW must be part cockroach. The only way you can explain her surviving having her head bitten off and a sword rammed through her torso.

=)) =)) =)) Bookwyrm, that's the best theory I've seen in a while.

They'd really had better not cast Tilda as LotGK. I won't boycot the series if they do, but I won't be watching SC 'til I can rent it, for free.

So out of curiosity, with the whole "of the same ilk" thing- does that mean LotGK is from Charn, or does it just mean that they're both evil and both best avoided at all costs? That whole thing always confused me.

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Posted : October 24, 2010 8:03 am
Josh
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Okay I don't think WW and LotGK being the same would be something to boycott the series for. For one, many people really think they are the same. Yes it would be annoying, but it wouldnt kill the franchise.

For instance if the rest of the SC movie is perfect, I wouldnt let the return of Tilda kill the movie for me.

Besides, I didnt hear any boycotts when Barbra Kellermen played the Lady of the Green Kirtle.

I would boycott the series over something like having Aslan say "But there, I have other names" or if they humanised his character. Or if they had Susan appear in Aslan's country. Or if they added in battles in the Magician's Nephew and changed it so that Digory and Polly ended up creating Narnia instead of Aslan, through their magic rings, etc.

The one thing that may make me boycott a reappearance of Tilda is if she replaces Tash in the Last Battle. They have no argument for her replacing him.

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Posted : October 24, 2010 2:29 pm
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