Like some have stated, in TLB, isn't Jill about 15/16, while Tirian in his mid-to-late 20's?

It's stated in LB that Eustace and Jill are the only ones still in school. That would make Jill 16, I believe, and Lucy 17 (as she is one year older--also, these ages are listed in the semi-canon timeline). Tirian is anywhere from 20-25. So, best case scenario is 17/20, which is... conceivable. However, that best case is also the most improbable case. Worst case, we have an age range of 9 years, which while isn't unheard of, is not exactly condoned for that particular age group.

So you'd be fine having a film about the end of the world, involving people who have died and are in heaven, having a romantic involvement?
Oddly enough that doesn't appeal to many people.

I am well aware of that which is why I have said that perhaps romance is better something left to the imagination of the fans and not something appearing on big screen. And I don't think it so odd, a romantic addtion probably would end up spoiling the film, which would end up ruining it for a good many fans. I suppose I have contradicted myself when I said that I wouldn't mind Jill/Tirian all that much as long as LB was made into a good movie, cause techinically in order to make a good movie, you have to stick to the book, which means no romance. So sorry about that, I do have a talent for condradicting myself, it comes from typing a post and only then thinking about what I have written (it also comes from writing posts closer to 2 am in the morning )
I suppose romantic me is always looking for romance, even where it is unneeded

The Last Battle takes place 7 years after The Silver Chair. Jill Pole would already grew up by then.

When Eustace and Jill arrive in Narnia in "The Last Battle", Eustace says to King Tirian:

"I'm Eustace Scrubb and this is Jill Pole," said the Boy. "And we were here
once before, ages and ages ago, more than a year ago by our time, and there
was a chap called Prince Rilian, and they were keeping this chap
underground, and Puddleglum put his foot in -"

So "The Last Battle" takes place over a year, but by implication less than two years, after "The Silver Chair". If it had been seven years then Eustace would have said so.

However, if you add up the times between the trips to Narnia:

From LWW to PC: 1 year (we're told at the beginning of PC)
From PC to VDT: 1 year (Edmund tells Caspian)
From VDT to SC: a few weeks (Eustace tells Jill that his adventure happened during the school holidays, and elsewhere Lewis tells us that they still had 11 weeks of a 13-week school term to come)
From SC to LB: over a year

That makes a total of 3-and-a-bit years (say 3 and a half). But in that time, all the Pevensies have grown up enough to have left school. The minimum school-leaving age in England at that time was 15, so in LWW Lucy must have been 11 or 12. Yet we're given the impression that she was quite a bit younger, and the Walden film certainly shows her to be younger than that.

Then again, Lewis always said that maths wasn't his subject.

Then again, Lewis always said that maths wasn't his subject.

Not only that, but when he wrote the timeline which is often used, I think he cannot be checking it against what he had already said in the books. He places LB in 1949, and it doesn't add up (literally) with what Eustace says in your quote.

Perhaps he meant to edit it for later editions of the books - or maybe he just didn't think of it.

But it does make it more difficult to work out how old the Pevensies are at any given time.

When Eustace and Jill arrive in Narnia in "The Last Battle", Eustace says to King Tirian:

"I'm Eustace Scrubb and this is Jill Pole," said the Boy. "And we were here
once before, ages and ages ago, more than a year ago by our time, and there
was a chap called Prince Rilian, and they were keeping this chap
underground, and Puddleglum put his foot in -"

...Hum, I'd forgotten about that quote. That is slightly problematic. Well, Lewis says specifically that Tirian "was between the ages of twenty and twenty-five", and then later says "he who sat at the right hand of the old man was hardly full grown, certainly younger than Tirian himself..." in reference to Peter. A couple pages later, your quote comes along, and then two pages after that, Eustace says "[Polly and I] were the only two who are still at school." This would mean Lucy would have to be at least 15, if not 16, which would make Peter... I think about 19, 20? This would sort of add up, but it does not make sense for Lucy to be 12 in LWW. She doesn't act like it at all. :/

As Varnafinde mentioned above CS Lewis worked on a timeline and Last Battle obviously takes place in 1949, 7 years later from TSC and it was mentioned as well that he was going to rewrite or edit the stories he currently wrote. That's a fact somewhere on this site or google it.

Well I feel like mentioning that a page I moderate with a few other people on facebook for King Tirian and Jill Pole fans broke over 100 fans last night. So yeah I'm very happy about that today

Moderator Note: This thread is straying a bit from its subject with the Narnian timeline posts. Please return to the subject of "Pairings?". Thank you very much.

When I was younger (and I'm sure some of you still remember), I was a big supporter of Eustace/Jill.

I'm not so much anymore. I think the main point of the all the relationships in general between the characters is one of enduring friendship. Although, if I had to pick one of the "ships" as the one most likely to be "canon", I would still go with Eustace and Jill. When Eustace starts to show himself as more heroic, the book states that she starts to see him differently and even feels shy around him. Now, whether this different outlook on him is a romantic one or not is up for debate. But it is at least something canon the filmmakers could interpret that way and use if they really wanted to.

I don't have anything against romance being in the movies, as long as it's done right. Although, the important thing is to get the thematic elements correct, along with the character's natures/personalities. As long as those are in tact, I'm good.

~Riella

I agree what you said about Jill and Eustace's friendship Ithilwen. I will admit that for maybe a week while I first read the Silver Chair i thought of putting them together but once I got to reading Last Battle I instantly became in love with the idea of Tirian/Jill.

I don't agree that Jill and Eustace would be canon because CS Lewis did say that the two were always friends at the end of SC. I believe CS Lewis meant them to just be friends and not ever romantically involved. Their friendship is too strong for them to ever become more then what they are and Eustace acting heroic around Jill just goes to show in real friendships that your best friend will always have your back no matter what.

I'm done with my say however since this is on topic my page for Jill/Tirian on facebook has reached over 200 fans this week. Last time I looked it was at 211 fans

I was never a real fan of Eustace and Jill, but now I understand that Lewis makes a point that they were friends.
I was never really to keen about Jill and Tirian, but I have nothing against it, I just have my own theories. But I first want to re-read the Last Battle before I write them here

I remember when reading MN I was very disappointed that Polly and Digory didn't get together They seemed to be such a great couple. Any other supporters of that idea?

Relationships are very vital to the story. Whether that be brother and sister, cousin and cousin, best friends, or husband and wife, interactions between characters are important.

What I do hate is when writers just making characters fall in love just to fall in love. It's very soppy and often detracts from the conflict. If characters do fall in love, it should be for a certain reason. Do they have similar characteristics? Beliefs? Backgrounds?

As said before, this is why I love Narnia. Romance is not a driving part of the plots. I just love it when friends just remain friends, and these friends do not happen to fall in love with the cousins of the friend.

I don't agree that Jill and Eustace would be canon because CS Lewis did say that the two were always friends at the end of SC.

What I meant was that it could be argued that Jill holding romantic feelings toward Eustace could be interpreted as canon. This would not undo the fact that they were always friends. There are many people who have held romantic feelings toward one another, but nothing ever came of it, and they always remained friends. This would especially be true in the case of Eustace and Jill because, even if she did truly have romantic feelings toward him, their relationship did not get the chance to change since

~Riella

I agree De_De and Louloudi

And Ithilwen I'm going to have to agree to disagree. There's really nothing vital to support that Jill has romantic feelings for Eustace. I don't understand the part in the book which you are talking about however it doesn't influence me enough when I reread chapters 10-14 last night and this morning. I remember the other chapters very well. I can't find anything that supports that Jill has feelings for Eustace.

I remembered you saying something that made you think Jill was nervous around Eustace during the battle however I didn't see anything like that. Therefore I find any romantic attraction between them pointless and uncanon. They should stay as caring, I have your back, friends.

I don't think Jill and Eustace had quite reached the point where they would have developed romantic feelings for anyone, much less each other, though I admit I've always thought they would have grown to explore the possibility of a romantic relationship had they grown to adulthood.

However, we are all forgetting the most important thing: in LB, Jill is said to have "fallen in love" with Jewel. What do we make of that?

Yeah well I'm going to stand by what Lewis wrote. "Theye were always friends." even if they had