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SamuraiSally
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My personal preference for how I picture Jill?

Short hair, text-book blonde... perhaps more brownish than blonde. Perhaps she changes from very pasty-white to a pretty golden brown on the trip (despite it's winter-ness...). And as for her height? Well, actually, the book clues us in.

On page 74 of "The Last Battle", the dialogue goes like this (quoted from the book)

"By the Mane!" he whispered to Eustace. "This girl is a wonderous wood-made. If she had Dryad's blood in her she could scarce do it better."

"She's so small, that's what helps," whispered Eustace.

Wait a second... if there's no "I" in "team", then how am I on the team, and if so, why are you lecturing me?

Posted : March 28, 2010 6:04 am
A_Narnian_Ship
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I like the idea of the skin color change as the movie progresses.
I just wanted to point out that "small" does not have to just apply to her height; it could also mean she is very slender.

Also, welcome to Narnia Web, SamuraiSally!


I saw the movie....and was disappointed

Posted : March 29, 2010 8:17 am
SamuraiSally
(@samuraisally)
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Ah, that is true... it could be referring to that. Even moreso because, well, it hints that she's slender other places, as in comparing the size of her weight to the snake's body:

(Well, it's a hint that she's slender, mainly because Tirian could grab the snake by the throat, and use the other hand to [try to] hit the snake with the sword)

...Well, what can I say? I look for clues as often as possible. And thanks for the welcome, guys! I appreciate it. :)

Wait a second... if there's no "I" in "team", then how am I on the team, and if so, why are you lecturing me?

Posted : March 30, 2010 1:14 am
DamselJillPole
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(Well, it's a hint that she's slender, mainly because Tirian could grab the snake by the throat, and use the other hand to [try to] hit the snake with the sword)

Dont you mean Rilian? lol.. that's alright.

I do have to disagree with getting a younger actress because when or if this movie will be made Will Poulter will be around 18 years of age. Depending on how grown up Will would look the actress for Jill will be older then 13-15. She should be around or look the age of 16-18.


Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!

Posted : April 3, 2010 4:43 pm
Lu_valient
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NarniaWeb Nut

I must say something quite contradictory.
even though i'm really interested in part of jill. and jill is supposed to be the same age as eustace and eustace is supposed to be younger than lucy, will is older than georgie and personally i think that for once we should have someone the right age


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Posted : April 4, 2010 3:03 am
SamuraiSally
(@samuraisally)
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oops! I always get Rilian and Tirian mixed up... despite that they look nothing alike in my head...

Age arguments? Hmm... let's see here.

Pevensies start out with Lucy being around 10-12, Edmund being a year older than her (11-13), Susan being about two years older than him (13-15), and Peter older than all, probably around 14-16.

Skip ABOUT a year. Lucy is anywhere from 11-13 now. Edmund is probably 12-14, etc, etc, depending on when their birthdays fall.

Next adventure: skip another year. So Lucy: 12-14 and Edmund: 13-15, with Eustace being about 1 to 2 years younger than lucy, making him 11-13 years old.

Skip merely a few months, with Eustace somewhere around 12 and so that makes Jill about the same age as him.

That's merely book-wise. In the movies, everyone's a bit older. So, Jill should probably be anywhere from 13-16 in the movies. I'd vote for 14 years old. Not "too old for Narnia" and not too young to be a burden to anyone.

Then, for the Last Battle, she'd be around 14-17.

Doesn't everyone just LOVE listening to someone rant on? I know I enjoy doing all the talking. :p

Wait a second... if there's no "I" in "team", then how am I on the team, and if so, why are you lecturing me?

Posted : April 4, 2010 4:56 am
Lu_valient
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SamuraiSally I most totally agree on how you said the age range is like that and JillPoleWannabe123 are you because that would be a big part of it

Oops sorry I meant your age


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Posted : April 4, 2010 11:53 am
DamselJillPole
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NarniaWeb Fanatic

Then again we have to wait what Will Poulter will look like once he's 18 because that's when guys gets their last minute growth spurt. I would like the actress to be in his age range. IDK we'll wait and see.

Then again we have Cor/Aravis and Digory/Polly's ages the movie crew can be bound to get just right.


Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!

Posted : April 5, 2010 10:30 am
SamuraiSally
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Hm. Any suggestions for the actress who plays her? I don't really watch too many movies, but I do know that I want someone who's quite plain, actually.

Wait a second... if there's no "I" in "team", then how am I on the team, and if so, why are you lecturing me?

Posted : April 7, 2010 6:58 am
DamselJillPole
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NarniaWeb Fanatic

My personal favorite for the role of Jill Pole has always been and always will be
Dakota Blue Richards

I dont care if she was in the Golden Compass, that does not mess with the fact that she is a good actress and could actually pull off the role of Jill Pole.


Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!

Posted : April 7, 2010 10:55 am
coracle
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Because when you think of Tirian you think, oh this guy is strong and in his mid twenties so yeah he'll make sound and Eustace is an older teenager who Lewis does describe quite chubby...
Scrubb was probably indeed calling Jill skinny but said small.

Sorry to disagree with you but most people who think Eustace chubby and Jill tall and skinny have seen the BBC tv serials and are influenced by the casting for SC there.
Lewis specifically describes Eustace as puny - in England that means thin, weedy, not well built. VDT and SC take place in the middle of WW2 in England, all food is rationed, and the alternative-thinker Scrubb parents would not be giving him fattening food (even if they could get it).
Jill is described in LB as "small", which is an allover description, probably means she's not tall and not well built. According to the Lewis/Hooper timeline, it's 1949, 4 years after the war. There are still food shortages in England (sugar was rationed until the early 1950s!!) and so Eustace and Jill at 16 or so are not big at all although Eustace has probably grown taller.

@SamuraiSally, check out the resources on Narniaweb regarding ages.
1. Book ages http://www.narniaweb.com/resources-links/character-ages/
2. Timeline http://www.narniaweb.com/resources-links/narnia-timelines/

The movie ages : in LWW - Lucy 8-9, Ed 12, Susan nearly 14, Peter 15.
In PC Peter says it's one year on, but it is the start of autumn (school year beginning) which makes it 14-15 months later (LWW was summer, probably start of holidays). Edmund just had a birthday so he can be 14, and the others seem to be growing up fast too. Lucy is maybe 10.
In VDT another year has gone, Ed and Lu are 11/12 and 15, while Eustace is being played as 14.
SO by SC Eustace is 14 1/2 or 15. And Jill will be similar, or maybe 13/14.

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : April 7, 2010 12:39 pm
DamselJillPole
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NarniaWeb Fanatic

Thank you for correcting me on that Coracle. I think I was mixed up that day between book and BBC series.


Long Live King Caspian & Queen Liliandil Forever!
Jill+Tirian! Let there be Jilrian!

Posted : April 7, 2010 4:11 pm
SamuraiSally
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aheh. ...Well. I've officially put my foot in my mouth good and firmly. Thank you for the correction, Coracle... sorry!

Wait a second... if there's no "I" in "team", then how am I on the team, and if so, why are you lecturing me?

Posted : April 8, 2010 6:26 am
coracle
(@coracle)
NarniaWeb's Auntie Moderator

No problem, I hated to come in all clever and correct but it seemed a good time to clarify it. EDIT: I'm not saying your ideas aren't worthwhile, just to let you know we have some info, some of which comes from the author. On the other hand, lots of people can't imagine kids of 9 or 10 speaking and acting as the kids do in VDT and SC.
I am so looking forward to VDT and SC!

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : April 8, 2010 11:36 am
JillPoleWannabe123
(@jillpolewannabe123)
NarniaWeb Regular

Lu_valient, I am 13 years old, turning 14 in August of 2010. :D

SamuraiSally, I am very happy you have joined us on NarniaWeb as we argue about ages and hair colors of a person in a book. I also agree with your little age chart thingy. It was most informative. :)

I actually don't think there are any actresses that would be absolutely perfect for Jill right now. It would have to be someone new that no one has heard of before... But any suggestions? I could be wrong!!!

As for looks, I'm still sticking with my brown colored hair. I don't know why, but blonde just doesn't seem "Jilly" to me. Wow. That sounded conceited. Who am I to judge the beautiful blondes out there??? 8-}

Mhm... I like the idea of Jill getting tan when she is in Narnia. It makes sense if you think about it. If she's traveling on foot, she would be outside most of the time. And it would also show that Jill had changed when she left England and then came back later.

I think I talked a lot this time... I enjoyed blabbing though!! Well... I think that's it!

I Like: Your mischevious smile, your rather weird hair, your perverse mind, our occasional annoying conversations, the funny random noises you make, the burning touch of your fingetips on my skin, how you know most of the things on my mind...

Posted : April 8, 2010 5:00 pm
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