Well the temptation may be more then just being King. I think its being superior. Think about it. He's always been second in command to Peter, bossed around by Susan and preached to by Lucy. In our world, he wants to help fight in a war, yet is told he can't because of his age despite the many battles he fought in Narnia. He's probably tired of everyone else having control over his life, and therefore when he gets to Narnia he wants to be the ruler of himself and of others.

I know it seems a bit selfish, but thats probably where they are going in the movies.

What does the White Witch mean by "And much more?" Is she trying to seduce him or somehting?

I don't think the White Witch's "...and much more" line has anything to do with a sexual tempation. That seems more like a theme the Silver Chair would explore with Rillian's character. But for the conflict between Edmund and the Witch, I think that the "...and much more" line is hinting that she may give him some sort of supernatural power. Cause she is a witch and maybe she's tempting Edmund not only by offering him a high position, but also great powers. I think this would be a great moment for Aslan to appear.

Do you remember the interview with Ben Barnes a few years ago where he talked about Edmund and Lucy coming and "raining on his fire" or some phrase like that. I can't remember the exact term used, but it gave you the impression that Caspian wasn't too happy with them being there. Do you think that could have something to do with Edmund desiring to be king over Caspian? I certainly hope not!

Actually, untill all you guys started viewing Ben's remark in that light I hadn't really thought of it like that. I'm not sure he was entirely serious about the comment in the first place, I'm not sure he's ever entirely serious for a whole interview . I took it as a joke sort of.

I thought he meant this is Caspian's time to shine. It's the only book where he's not running for his life or losing loved ones. Yet the pevensies, who are crowd favorites are there so the story isn't all about him.

I don't think he meant to say that Caspian's character had a problem with them or that he himself had a problem with Georgie or Skandar. I think he just meant that the story is Caspian's finest hour and he has to share it. I don't think it's a problem but more a thing of humor.

I could be totally wrong about the comment though.

This story is not Caspian's story. This is a lot more Eustace's story and Reepicheep's. VotDT is all over the place.

^^ well, it's Eustace's story mostly, but it's really Edmund and Lucy's as well since it's their last visit in Narnia! IMO.....

This story is not Caspian's story. This is a lot more Eustace's story and Reepicheep's. VotDT is all over the place.

I think you misunderstood me. I didn't mean it was Caspian's story. What I meant was VDT is the best point in Caspian's life. The point of the statement, I think, is that this is the only time we get to see Caspian as King really and we still don't get to focus on him. The point of the statement is that is IS NOT actually Caspian's story even though it is probably the most peaceful point and best time of his life.

Caspian is one of the five main characters and if you take away the kids who showed up and "ruined his bonfire" then it's a Caspian and Reep story. As it is, the kids are there and so it is everyone's story.

Also, in the Barnes quote he said "the kids". If we're going to view it in such a way that suggests Edmund wants to be a ruler over him, wouldn't that suggest Lucy and Eustace wish to rule over him as well?

Again, I don't think the quote is talking about the thing with Edmund, but I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time

I am sure he said the kids because he is like ten years older then them.

^^Yes but I mean he didn't say Skandar showed up and ruined his bonfire. It was plural. So take the remark for what you will, but that suggests either all of them are challenging his authority or none of them are imo.

^^ maybe Ben meant Eustace.....? but it is plural......
hmmm......
well, all I can say is that I hope he didn't mean Edmund when he said kids!

Well i am certain he did. They are kids.

Interesting theory, Fantasia. I'm such a pessimist that I would tend to say darkly that the filmmakers are just ruining the story...again. But I'll try to consider this more thoroughly.

Edmund has long been one of my favorite characters because he shapes up to be such a brick after being a traitor in LWW. I always considered that the reason Edmund pulled the, "I'm a higher king than you, Caspian!" card because he didn't like to be bossed around. It wasn't a big, drawn-out theme, just perhaps a little flaw of his.

However, I don't think that Edmund was ever considered as a lower king than Caspian on the Voyage. Caspian, Edmund, and Lucy were all on par with each other as kings and queens on the voyage, except when Caspian was being a jerk, or when Edmund was. So one could argue that Edmund "pulling the card" when his greed wasn't being enhanced at Deathwater was just telling Caspian that he never acted like that and putting him in place for being an idiot.

So....one could see that in the book. But I don't think it's major. I guess it might be logical to use it as Edmund's "temptation", but I don't really like it anyhow.

*ends up being critical/pessimistic anyways*

I hope Edmund realizes that he's being childish. I hope he doesn't act as big of a jerk as Peter was!

Here is another is another quote that would suggest that Edmund's temptation is going to be related to his desire to be king.
From Daniel Poole:

“My character doesn't have a name, but he is lining up to join the Army behind Edmund Pevensie (Skandar Keynes),” he said. … I get to tease Edmund when it is found out he is too young to join. “The director Michael Apted told me that our conversation is the instigator for Edward's journey because although he is 14, he has lived a life much older through Narnia.”

I'm sure the filmmakers did get that idea from the two scenes mentioned in the book, but this is really going to seem like deja vu. LWW - Edmund wants to be king, wants to be more powerful than Peter (pay him back), PC - Peter has to show that he is a king / superior, VDT - Edmund is desiring to be king again.
In my opinion, they missed the point of Edmund's interactions with Caspian. On Goldwater, Edmund either reacted that way because of his own greed, because he realized that Caspian was being an idiot and was trying to stop him, or because he didn't like being order around in that way (Caspian wasn't very nice about it). I don't think the island has a curse on it that makes people act in a certain way. Reepicheep and Eustace were completely unaffected by the gold. Lucy reacted more to how Caspian and Edmund were acting then the gold. At the end of the world, Edmund is just using whatever influence he can to get Caspian to do his duty. I just hope that his disagreements with Caspian are limited to the spots in the book and not an ongoing thing throughout the whole movie.

If only they hadn't changed Peter and Caspian's characters and interactions in PC.

Yeah, but I wonder if Peter and Caspian's argument might now affect Edmund and Caspian's friendship. I believe that Edmund is different enough to not make his brother's mistakes in PC, but at the same time, Edmund might feel like now that he doesn't have Peter to lead him, he has more responsibility to prove that he can be that leader. But since he is the High King's brother, he has been a ruler of Narnia years before Caspian, and might think that he knows more than Caspian does.

Or, maybe at first he really does want to help his country, but in Narnia, he struggles to do his best because of Caspian supposedly holding him back. And having his little sister and pesky cousin around doesn't make things much better. He'd probably get frustrated, and, just like Peter, let it out on Caspian, who's also struggling to keep his role.

I'm not likely right on either, though. Thank goodness the movie should clear this confusion up!

It might have something to do with edmund feeling like he is second King? but he felt that way with Peter too, so maybee they are trying to relive that but with Caspian instead of Peter. Hopefully they do not make Caspian out to be a tyrant, or they could and it could be temptation for Caspian to be like his Uncle, just a thought