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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think it adds to the plot, I think that dirian was in line with telling Ed that, being that it was Caspian&#039;s ship. Ed, in the movies, has to deal with being a king under a ruling king, fir...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think it adds to the plot, I think that dirian was in line with telling Ed that, being that it was Caspian's ship. Ed, in the movies, has to deal with being a king under a ruling king, first with Peter and then with Caspian as he pointed out. Yet I think the ending where Caspian says, &quot;I think of you as my brother Ed&quot; restores some of Ed's adverse feelings, to understanding. (They both hugged and got over it in the end  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/6.gif" alt=":ymhug:" title="Big hug" /> )]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[But when Dirian told Edmund that Caspian was the King and the one in charge, that was when Caspian should have stepped in a defended him and he didn&#039;t.

Well, Caspian tells Drinian to do wha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>But when Dirian told Edmund that Caspian was the King and the one in charge, that was when Caspian should have stepped in a defended him and he didn't.</blockquote>

Well, Caspian tells Drinian to do what Edmund has just suggested, doesn't he?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t particularly like the scene where Lord Rhoop is &quot;Rescued&quot;   
It goes something like this:

Our heroes are sailing through the G. M. (Green Mist).  Suddenly, they hear horr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I didn't particularly like the scene where Lord Rhoop is &quot;Rescued&quot;   
It goes something like this:

<i>Our heroes are sailing through the G. M. (Green Mist).  Suddenly, they hear horrible cries.  They spot a man on a tiny island who looks like your generic old, dangerously crazed gentleman.  &quot;Oh, an aged crazy dude.  We'd better not get involved.&quot;  But wait!  
&quot;LOOK!  That guy's got The SWORD!  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/13.gif" alt=":-o" title="Surprise" /> &quot;  
&quot;You're right, Ed!  Quick, men, grab him!  I know we'll probably give him a heart attack, but we must get that sword!&quot;</i>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well, I didn&#039;t like the high king and queen of narnia bit, but I understood that the filmmakers thought this would be a quick way to tell the audience that didn&#039;t read the books that Ed and ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well, I didn't like the high king and queen of narnia bit, but I understood that the filmmakers thought this would be a quick way to tell the audience that didn't read the books that Ed and Lucy have more power than Caspian. But then in the rest of the film, they said the exact opposite, which made the first scene completely pointless.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[okay the way I took the whole High King thing was that I think it was Caspian&#039;s way of telling the crew that the Pevensie&#039;s were kings and queens before he was king.....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[okay the way I took the whole High King thing was that I think it was Caspian's way of telling the crew that the Pevensie's were kings and queens before he was king..... <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/4.gif" alt=":D" title="Big Grin" />]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t like Dirian telling Edmund he&#039;s not in charge. I think Ed and Caspian though of each other as equals (except at Goldwater, but that&#039;s the whole point there.) It would have been bett...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I didn't like Dirian telling Edmund he's not in charge. I think Ed and Caspian though of each other as equals (except at Goldwater, but that's the whole point there.) It would have been better to not have the scene in there.  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/46.gif" alt=":ymsigh:" title="Sigh" />

The High King and Queen drove me a little  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/35.gif" alt="8-}" title="Silly" /> simply because it looks like the script writers didn't know their source material. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/109.gif" alt="x_x" title="I dont wanna see" /> Its an error that should not have been there. Period. Exclamation mark!*

*to quote Reep  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/71.gif" alt=";))" title="Hi hi hi" />]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[But when Dirian told Edmund that Caspian was the King and the one in charge, that was when Caspian should have stepped in a defended him and he didn&#039;t. I caught that in my second viewing and...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>But when Dirian told Edmund that Caspian was the King and the one in charge, that was when Caspian should have stepped in a defended him and he didn't. I caught that in my second viewing and was disappointed with that.</blockquote> I didn't think too much into that scene but after you pointed it out I kinda compared it with the first time Caspian wants to give Ed the Rhindon and after Ed refuses he puts it back to its place without another word. To me the scenes look like he respects Ed as precedessor but he also doesn't mind being the boss. But after their Goldwater conflict, just before the battle, Caspian again insists that Ed takes Peter's sword, and this time he really means it. And he also gives Ed the honor to kill the sea serpent. I don't mind these little additions/changes/whatever...I think it just makes the characters look more realistic, though prolly in different way than shown in the book.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve thought a lot about that but Edmund is High King compared to Caspian in a way because he is a King of &quot;Old&quot; (if that makes sense). I just see High King as a term to define who...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've thought a lot about that but Edmund is High King compared to Caspian in a way because he is a King of &quot;Old&quot; (if that makes sense). I just see High King as a term to define who is the &quot;older King&quot;. But when Dirian told Edmund that Caspian was the King and the one in charge, that was when Caspian should have stepped in a defended him and he didn't. I caught that in my second viewing and was disappointed with that.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[She may not have actually stated that she wanted to be Susan, but (and just bear with me for a minute) if you read into it enough you can find the implications there... possibly even ones th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>She may not have actually stated that she wanted to <i>be</i> Susan, but (and just bear with me for a minute) if you read into it enough you can find the implications there... possibly even ones that Lucy did not know were there.  Remember that she is reaching the stage where she is wanting to attract male attention... like Susan.  She is wanting to be beautiful... like Susan.  She makes what could almost be deemed an experimental attempt to see if Caspian (Susan's former admirer) will notice her... like Susan.  This is more than just wanting to look like her 'beautiful older sister'; she is wanting a piece of Susan's world for her own, and only after experiencing what that could be like does she realize that it is something she does not want.
Also, remember that the spell says &quot;<i>Make</i> me she, whom I'd agree, holds more beauty over me.&quot;  Let's note that again: &quot;MAKE me she&quot;, not &quot;Make me beautiful like she&quot;.  So, even if she did not realize it at the time, the spell itself is designed to make you into that other person, even if that is not exactly what you wanted to happen.</blockquote>

Thanks, Flambeau! <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/1.gif" alt=":)" title="Happy" /> it makes a lot of sense when you explain it.

I'm still not a fan of that part in the movie, though. Because, although it makes sense <i>after someone explains it</i>, it shouldn't need further explanation. A movie should be able to stand on its own, and shouldn't need the viewers to try to figure it out to have it make sense to them. I thought a lot of the parts in the movie, actually, were much too vague. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/2.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" />


~Riella]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: &quot;High King Edmund&quot; (and other notes of interest)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There are 2 ways of looking at this line.
1 is the book purist way, saying that Peter was the only high king and calling anyone else that is blasphemy.
The other way of looking at it is from...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[There are 2 ways of looking at this line.
1 is the book purist way, saying that Peter was the only high king and calling anyone else that is blasphemy.
The other way of looking at it is from the perspective of Caspian and his men, These are the ancient sovreigns who ruled during Narnia's golden age and have returned out of the deep past to aid them, of course they are the &quot;High Kings and Queens&quot;.
As for myself I'm not sure how I feel about it, since Peter was the only true High King. But I can see what Caspian was meaning.]]></content:encoded>
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