A Poll on "Rock and Roll" - General Movie Discussion

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

icarus — Wed, 17 Dec 2025 22:13:46 +0000

December last year....

Posted by: @icarus

... having had all day thinking about it, I'm going to surprise myself here and say that my outside bet for this comment is actually somewhere closer to specific thematic reference than anything else.

You see, the thing is, I've become ever more convinced in the last few weeks that Greta Gerwig is going to make The Magician's Nephew as the first film, and I keep coming back to the scene where Aslan sings the universe into creation. Its such a weird and difficult to visualise sequence, and I'm trying to imagine how Greta Gerwig might bring that to life, and how she might explain that sequence to a producer like Amy Pascal.

In essence I'm trying to imagine that conversation, and the words I can imagine Greta might have used would be things like "cosmic" "psychedelic" "trippy" "operatic" and yes, maybe even "rock and roll" - though for reference i'm thinking of something more like the intro to Time by Pink Floyd , rather than say anything by AC/DC.

Do I get points for predicting Pink Floyd? 😉 😂

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

coracle — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 20:52:42 +0000

Here's the Wikipedia page for the 1955 top-selling single records. I noticed, in reading this article, that until 1952, the top songs chart was based on sales of sheet music of the song, not recordings. Interesting.

This chart shows a lot of what I think of as my parents' music for most of it, but in October there arrived the iconic Rock Around The Clock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_top-ten_singles_in_1955

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

bluestarrr — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 06:18:59 +0000

When I first heard the comment, I thought it meant something like "everything's ready to start."

However, now knowing that Greta has shifted the timeline, by the time we get to meet the Pevensies, it would be the 90s when grunge/alternative rock was at its height. I'm wondering if we might see a Susan who is obsessed with Nirvana/Kurt Cobain. Just a thought.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

icarus — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:01:03 +0000

I dunno, for me, although I wouldn't draw any direct connections between Pascal's "Rock and Roll" quote and Mark Ronsons hiring, I do think it (along with everything else we've seen since then) tips me further towards the notion that Amy Pascal was speaking deliberately and purposefully.

That she didn't just misspeak, or respond sarcasticly, or even just use an off-hand metaphor etc.

I still don't think she meant literal rock music, but I'm leaning towards her hinting at an overall artistic choice in the film that we are still not fully privy to.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

coracle — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 18:55:01 +0000

Rock & roll music wasn't wide spread in England by 1955. Jazz or songs with a nice melody were still the norm. People had one radio at home to listen to there, or heard more modern music at some dance halls or small clubs. Skiffle music was a lightweight music that continued into the 60s, with some of the British pop bands playing both. Cliff Richard, England's answer to Elvis Presley, started about 1956 or 57.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

starlit — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 13:12:48 +0000

The phrase "rock and roll" generally refers just to the rockabilly style of music from the 1950s. It's dated and hasn't survived to this day. "Rock music", more generally speaking, is a different, broader thing.

Mark Ronson's music wouldn't accurately be described as either, though he's talented and could possibly be composing something period specific.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

fantasia — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 12:59:55 +0000

@icarus, Not for me. The news that the film takes place during the 1950s changed it more for me.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear some rock and roll music in the film. But at appropriate times and places, not the creation of Narnia.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

icarus — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 09:57:06 +0000

Although I wouldn't categorise Mark Ronson as "rock n roll" in the slightest (either musically or culturally or any other which way) I was wondering if his announcement has changed the way you might vote in this poll?

Keep in mind also that he probably wasn't even involved in the project when Amy Pascal made her comments.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

Cobalt Jade — Sat, 16 Aug 2025 15:55:30 +0000

Elvis Presley released his first single in 1954 and at least five others in 1955. He had just as big of an affect on Britain as he did in the States. I'm guessing there's an Elvis song in the movie somewhere.

RE: A Poll on "Rock and Roll"

Pete — Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:59:22 +0000

Agreed @glenwit. Now that it appears MN is most likely to be set in 1955 in our world, some tasteful 1955 "rock and roll" music in the background would be okay IMO also, perhaps in a similar way to "Oh Johnny, Oh Johnny, Oh!" by the Andrews Sisters in Walden Media's LWW. That said, I don't think it would be tasteful at all if that's what the music in Narnia itself is like - especially when it comes to the most important music to be heard in the Narnia scenes - Aslan and the stars singing. It should sound other-worldly and magical IMO. {ym}:smile: