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Anfinwen
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Cobalt Jade, I quite like costume 2, very appropriate.

I definitely imagine something that has both flowy and structured elements. The bodice in the Baynes illustrations looks quite structured and solid while the skirt and scarf flow. The crown is massive and heavy, but her hair is wild, the perfect blend of strength and movement. 

Lu Valiant, MINOAN is exactly what I was trying to think of! (careful googling it everyone, it’s revealing, don’t want that part) It has the right colors and structure. I also like something a bit ancient Babylonian (others have said Persian).

The other thing to consider is layers that can shift and alter throughout the movie so that it doesn’t get boring. A robe/cape to wear over everything at first, more sashes and drapes and jewels after “shopping” with uncle Andrew, etc. 

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Posted : April 7, 2025 7:55 pm
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PrinceRillianIX
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I recently rewatched Return To Oz, and I think a costume akin to something like the villainess Mombi could be rather interesting for Jadis.

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Posted : May 25, 2025 9:19 am
Courtenay
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@rilianix Ooh yes, though preferably without the interchangeable heads!! Shocked I loved that movie when I was a kid — it's just amazingly surreal and creepy.

"Now you are a lioness," said Aslan. "And now all Narnia will be renewed."
(Prince Caspian)

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Posted : May 25, 2025 9:55 am
PrinceRillianIX
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@courtenay Haha yes! And I know right, the Wheelers especially were so creepy! 

In terms of the costume, I just think it feels beautiful but dangerous, which I think would be especially perfect for Jadis, just as it was for Mombi in the movie.

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Posted : May 25, 2025 1:05 pm
waggawerewolf27
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Yes, I, too, enjoyed the rather creepy Return to Oz, especially the mandolin music that Mombi played, in that room with all the cases of other people's heads. Doesn't it remind you a bit of MN's Hall of Statues? 

I was idly looking at Origin stories of the most iconic department stores, including Harrods, Selfridges, USA's Bloomingdales, not to mention Sak's 5th avenue, Macy's and even David Jones, which started in Sydney in 1838, & is the World's oldest continuously operating store, trading under its original name. For Italy's La Rinascente I found this poster, from 1877 & 1883, when this department store expanded to Rome. The way the lady is attired in it, just screams Jadis, especially the sort of service she seems to demand of staff, & the rather haughty look she is depicted as having. Despite being in just the right attire for the likes of Aunt Letty to call her a brazen hussy? Giggle  

La Rinascente, Milan, Italy

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Posted : May 27, 2025 10:02 pm
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Meltintalle
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I'm assuming the white is supposed to be a headdress? It's certainly dramatic in the poster but I wonder if there are any museum examples of anything similar or if it was only for the illustration...

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We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton

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Posted : May 29, 2025 5:19 pm
waggawerewolf27
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Posted by: @mel

I'm assuming the white is supposed to be a headdress? It's certainly dramatic in the poster but I wonder if there are any museum examples of anything similar or if it was only for the illustration...

The huge white feathers would make some sort of headachy headdress, I suppose, though it might be just a trick of light. But in Britain's WW1 terms, a decade later, white feathers denoted someone not prepared to stand up for one's country. Although such attire was mainly for illustration, I thought, the attitude & stance of the lady depicted, struck a Jadis-like note, especially as it was brazen enough to shock Aunt Letty. Bare arms, don't you know? Giggle    A no-no in 1900, even in Federation Australia, when the fashion for women was the buttoned up, hambone sleeve look was all the fashion. Looking down her nose at everyone else & expecting humble service on a nice velvet cushion from the end of 19th century Italian version of lowly "wage-slaves". Perhaps, it is more Jadis' attitudes to everyone else that define her, rather than the actual clothes that she wears. Which according to the description of the statues in that Charn Hall, would be positively dripping with expensive-looking jewels & jewellery (even if Aunt Letty thought were only paste).

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Posted : June 3, 2025 9:35 pm
fantasia
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MMMMMMmmmmmk. This must be posted.

https://ibb.co/C3ghVHWJ

So, my immediate thoughts.

-She's a stunt double
-This isn't THE costume
-Even if this isn't THE costume, that is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I feel like I'm back in the 70s-90s with She-Ra or Xena Warrior Princess. 

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Posted : August 11, 2025 2:28 pm
icarus
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It's definitely got that 1960s/70s Sci-Fi / Disco vibe. I can't quite pick out the movie its based on, but i'm certain its a Greta Gerwig classic movie reference.

 

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Topic starter Posted : August 11, 2025 2:37 pm
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Meltintalle
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I can imagine this looking very dramatic with a broken lamppost in hand. 

I can just as easily imagine not being impressed. But it is A Look.

We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton

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Posted : August 11, 2025 4:53 pm
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The Rose-Tree Dryad
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If that's the outfit she's wearing at the fight at the lamp-post (which it looks like it is) then I'm pretty alarmed at the fact that she'll be wearing it during the founding of Narnia. You won't be able to see it in the dark, but she'll be lit up like a star once the light arrives and that feels completely, profoundly wrong for the scene and the character. I can only hope that the Narnian air immediately causes the silver to tarnish! 😬

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Posted : August 11, 2025 6:49 pm
Meltintalle
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Tarnished silver is an intriguing idea, but my thought process is running along the lines of Jadis presenting herself to the audience as the White Witch from the very beginning*. (and/or some avenging angel/angel of light imagery)

*this isn't supported by the book, is it Giggle

Actually, I can't remember if my ideas about Jadis are influenced by the text or the illustrations and I don't have a copy close to hand to check. Blush  

 

EDIT: when in doubt, draw it

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We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton

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Posted : August 11, 2025 7:10 pm
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coracle
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It looks like a very trendy 1960s outfit, in which case I have no idea of the concept GG has for Charn. Maybe instead of a bell there'll be a record player with early  pop music!

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

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Posted : August 12, 2025 5:40 am
Courtenay
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Posted by: @coracle

It looks like a very trendy 1960s outfit, in which case I have no idea of the concept GG has for Charn. Maybe instead of a bell there'll be a record player with early  pop music!

Oh, DON'T give them ideas... mind you, the way this new production is apparently going, who knows?? Silly  

Posted by: @mel

Tarnished silver is an intriguing idea, but my thought process is running along the lines of Jadis presenting herself to the audience as the White Witch from the very beginning*. (and/or some avenging angel/angel of light imagery)

*this isn't supported by the book, is it Giggle

Actually, I can't remember if my ideas about Jadis are influenced by the text or the illustrations and I don't have a copy close to hand to check. Blush  

There's no clear description of her clothes in the book, apart from the sense that they're exotic and expensive-looking and that she has bare arms (to Aunt Letty's disgust, but this would have been far less scandalous by the 1950s).

I personally hope that this 1960s spangly look is just something they've put temporarily on the stunt double for a practice run and it's not exactly what Jadis's costume will look like in the finished production, but again, who knows?

The book doesn't establish Jadis immediately as being the future White Witch — that only becomes clear later on when her face turns deathly white after she eats the stolen apple, and when Aslan hints that she will return at some time in the distant future. But it probably wouldn't harm the story if this movie makes it more obvious from the start. 

"Now you are a lioness," said Aslan. "And now all Narnia will be renewed."
(Prince Caspian)

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Posted : August 12, 2025 6:35 am
Sir Cabbage
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I hope the final costume is not too similar to what the stunt double is wearing! It's looking too short and too Space-y '60s sci-fi for me!

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Posted : August 12, 2025 11:26 am
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